shark rigs?
Submitted by hekser on Wed, 2010-11-10 21:35
going jiggin on friday - hearing of all teh sharks aroudn thought id go and pickup some gear just in case they are on the bite...
came home with some 9/0 hooks 100lb wire trace some other wire leader(singlestrand chrome nickle) at 105lb some 150lb wind on leaders
im thinking.. mainline (50lb) to wind on, to wire leader to hook?
am i thinking along the right path? can i double uni the wind on to my braid main line?
also, where would i throw a sinker? im not sure about wire leader and sinkers... :L any ideas?
cheers
any one heading to the barges friday?
also, i couldnty find any assist hooks today, would it be okay to use say 150lb leader crimped ? aroudn 6 cm from split to hook?
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Markie
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Possibility shark out there
Possibility shark out there could bite through 100lb trace i reckon
hekser
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its 7 strand wire.. those mofos that toothy?
i just want a little mako like the one that was posted the other day.. i want to club the shit out of it then cook it for dinner... mmmm
other than that, whats the co-ords for north barge? anyone ? i know everyone keeps linking to that page with 20 ships names on the same co-ords.. is anyone keen to share a decent co-ord with me? or do i just have to head out back of rotto and go find the boat carpark :p
dumper
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ive had 9/0's bend out
ive had 9/0's bend out within minutes on a mako out there
hekser
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dammit
90$ worth a tackle.. and its not big enuff.. fukme. :P
Dreamtime
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hmmmm
i usually think about wat would hold up for sharks, and then go double or triple that... if that says anything. lol
hekser
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bugger
i got 1 pre rigged 300lb thing, a hook too 300lb mono with a few beads on it... richter job.. but 300lb mono, sharks would chomp that hey?..
Alan James
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Answer to your question
Like a firm cheese ..... hehe
It may last a short time but when things get serious forget it. A circle hook will help in keeping any line (mono or steel) away from teeth.
Markie
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I got one big hook about the
I got one big hook about the size of my hand haha i might bring that on saturday. Catch an amber and bait a chunk up.
hekser
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yer
but how would u rig that hook?
hook to wire to wind on to main line?
Markie
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yeh your mainline to the
yeh your mainline to the wind on tie a bimini in mainline and catspaw it on. Then clip on ya wind on to ya wire i guess(crimped loop in wire) ,need few metres of that wire at least then ya crimped on hook. I dont know too much about it (shark fishing) but thats the basic idea. Very thick wire a big hook and big bait i dont think you would need a sinker. could be wrong..
hekser
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sweet
need to get the bait down somehow tho right? or am i to use baits such as tuna heads? i got a bunch of scaly macks in teh freezer but i spose sharks dont want them ? :L
Faulkner Family
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sharks will take anything in
sharks will take anything in the water. as far as the gear goes , if you can tow your car with it it will be strong enough.
. give the stuff you got a go and if its not enough get the heavier stuff next time
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
Markie
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Yeh i reckon a bigg bait out
Yeh i reckon a bigg bait out there like a big head as you said. Well scalies landbased work for me but mine are live so i dont know if you should bother with little scalies out there, but still try i guess. Big fat head, biggg hoook and real heavy trace some big mommas down there im sure of it haha :)
hekser
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ahah,
heres hoping :D
how would i go about attaching a sinker to this rig?
my pan is thus so far
50lb main ---- spider hitch - windon leader (150lb) - crimp- 2m wire 7strand 100lb leader- crimp 9/0 hook
im pretty sure i want a sinker in here somewhere --- maybe a 20lb line from top of wire trace connected to a snapper weight ?
Markie
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Maybe more wire leader ayy
Maybe more wire leader ayy like 3 to 4 metres
Faulkner Family
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wherever you put the sinker
wherever you put the sinker , you have to plan on the shark will possibly hit the bait on the way down. so you got to make sure the wire leader and bait arent near the wind on or the other line as one bite the whole lot is gone.
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
hekser
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yer k
if i catch something this is gonna be massive novelty. im predicting nothign or a bust off. if i have 3-4 meters of wire, it wont matter putting a sinker before that hey? i could put a running sinker on my wind on?
Faulkner Family
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if your fishing mid water
if your fishing mid water you could put the running sinker on the wire
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
Markie
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well the sinker will sink
well the sinker will sink first and then the wire trace and wind on will meet. so dont do that. Close to or below hook i guess or none at all with a heavy rig/bait depending on the day it should get down alright
hekser
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i just worked out what i had typed
runnign sinker on the wind on lol... yup, sinkers fine to go on the wire?
what would you guys suggest as wire... i got 2 to cghose from- halco 7 strand leader wire (10m with crimps) or i have another one made by MASON its 30 feet of chrome nickle alloy 105lb test .. i got some crimps so im right to go with it, but whats better?
Faulkner Family
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set up one of each . you
set up one of each . you should only need around 1mtr of wire
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hekser
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-wherever you put the sinker , you have to plan on the shark...
wherever you put the sinker , you have to plan on the shark will possibly hit the bait on the way down. so you got to make sure the wire leader and bait arent near the wind on or the other line as one bite the whole lot is gone...
completely missed that post. cheers guys, i think ill go the 7 strand- everythign ive read in the last 1/2 hr has pointed at that - the single strand can go in the tacklebox till i find a use for it :D
what would i do without FW and its helpful members :P
probably go on google more.... :D
hekser
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one last question
Do wrasse make good live bait for sharkS? do they eat em? coz im pretty sure it wont be hard to go catch a shitload of them on the way out :P
Tony Halliday
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300lb piano wire is the way
300lb piano wire is the way to go!
2m of the wire, then 3m of 200~300lb leader, then 80lb mono after that.
hooks, We use carbon steel hooks, long shank.
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It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
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Tony Halliday
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these rig are great for
these rig are great for smaller sharks upto about 1,5m and under 80kg. Over that you need stronger piano wire and crimped ends.
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
squidvicious1
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if you look around the
if you look around the net,pre made shark rigs from mexico (victoria)
http://www.prestigefishing.com.au/store/index.php/shark-traces-c-3?osCsid=ubiu7lfgguulcnb81rbirl1tf6
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hekser
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cheers guys
im making em up as i type this.. they look promising. :D
hook- wire with a running sinker- swivel- windon leader- main line