WARNING: Seller beware!!

I'm in the process of selling my boat and i posted it on Boatsonline.com.au and within a few hours i had a emails asking if the boat was for sale, so no worries i jumped quick as to get a good result.

His typing wasn't too crash hot but the name seemed foriegn so i accepted that, he asked about the condition of the boat, service history etc etc so i gave him the word and said i'm open to negotiation.

I said i can take photo's and he was all for it then he emailed back saying he wanted a pick up address for his shipping agent (freight company for us aussies...) i was suss already and told him to call me, his call dropped out/hung up saying he works offshore, suprise i work in the same industry and i told him that but he didn't acknowledge in the email just that he is happy to pay 35k straight up without negotiating one bit, even more suss.

He then asked for my paypal details (i didn't think you could send 35k on paypal, probably can't) i told him if he's to buy it his bank can send the cash to my bank, so i gave him my account details, he then said his bank cannot release the funds until i pay his "shipping agent" 950 bucks to secure transport (man i got quotes today for 3k from Perth to K-Town, 950 won't get it to darwin)

then i was sure i was been had and sure enough after speaking to a work colleugue he has seen the same on aviation sites, details below.

The bank said there is no threat to me since i didn't pay anything and he can't use my accounts but they are watching them all just in case. so Seller Beware

 

 

I think someone just tried to scam me.

It started a week ago when I received an email enquiring about my aircraft which is for sale on this site and the RAAus magazine. The magazine reference number was quoted.

He called himself Reinhold Brecht (from a German email, .de) and asked if the plane was still for sale.

I replied yes, and there was then an exchange of several emails re engine, general condition, avionics etc.

He then offered to pay my full asking price (no haggling) and advised that the sale would be conditional upon his LAME inspecting the aircraft.

OK so far.

He then advised he would send his LAME from England and wanted to deal via Paypal.

Next he advised he had sent the deposit to my Paypal account and it would be pending. All I had to do was send the 2500 Pounds to his LAME via Western Union. He has apparently included the LAME's payment with my deposit.

When I told him I didn't have that sort of money lying around, he then became insistent that it happen now, and that I should perhaps borrow it as I would have it returned within 24 hours.

At this point I sent him a rude email suggesting that the ruse was up, and that I wasn't sending my money anywhere.

Beware of this. He is good, and appears to know his aircraft speak.

I will also report this to RAAus.

If something appears to be too good to be true, then it probably is.

This was an email from one of the guys on the flying forum

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pretty old scam now.done it

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:00

pretty old scam now.

done it with our car too

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Fri, 2011-01-14 16:05

Stuff! cheeky bastard!!

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And my guitar!

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:05

And my guitar!

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If i am selling an item. i

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:07

If i am selling an item. i sure as shit aint gonna be posting anyone any money.

 

Good get Bruce !

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Happened to me last week

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:11

 Ive got some gear for sale in the quokka, online.

i got the same email last week. Same crap about working offshore and shipping the stuff overseas and wanting me to disclose my paypal details.

Knew it was b$%^&t  straight away. sent an email back to the address telling them I knew it was a scam and havent heard anything else.

you know its crap when someone starts talking about paying the asking price and having it shipped all in one email. Makes you wonder how many people actually fall for it.

bastards.

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My friends were selling a car

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:13

My friends were selling a car and the same happened to them. 2 replies on add on gumtree and 2 in quokka. They must have a whole call/admin centre when they are so active. And we are talking about $3k car.  Who would bother bringing it to NZ or even Malaysia? Dam those scammers. I bet someone who just doesn’t know about this will still fall for it.

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Only use Western Union if it is a close relative !

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:22

On EBAY or buying from the net, the scammer tries the 'Paypal' then goes for the Western Union !

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first time i had seen it and

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:54

first time i had seen it and i was suss from the start, he even rang me for crying out loud, oh well boat is still for sale everyone

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yep - old scam. On the

Fri, 2011-01-14 17:16

yep - old scam. On the carsales network (which includes, rvs, bikes, boats etc.)

Funny how some people have fallen for it.

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A few of you have said it but

Fri, 2011-01-14 18:53

A few of you have said it but ill say it again... who in there right mind would send money to someone who's supposed to be buying something off you!?!?  haha

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its amazing how many people

Fri, 2011-01-14 18:56

its amazing how many people they must have working this scam, almost everyone selling anything of decent value gets one of these paypal offers.... sold my car 6 months ago and must have had a dozen of them.

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my mate had the same thing,

Fri, 2011-01-14 19:00

my mate had the same thing, of carsales haha he was from darwin cheeky shit

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yeh someone tried that crap

Fri, 2011-01-14 19:02

yeh someone tried that crap on me when i put a bike in the quokka online. said they wont put the money in my account until the bike is being delivered. however with ebay you pay first then ship. all suss. face to face and cash is best

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i applied for a job on

Fri, 2011-01-14 19:06

i applied for a job on gumtree last year just had to pick up this guys parcels and deliver once a week for 3 hours

as he works over seas sounded suss by i went along for the ride

said he would pay me in traverlers cheques i said thats weid  but fine ill try it, said i wanted $40 per hour so he sent me $5000 in traverlers checks to my po box

i emailed him and  said he sent too much,just cash them and send me back the rest

i was going to the bank that day anyways so took them along to show the girls  who i know pretty well also told them the story

they passed all there tests only thing missing was my name on the traverlers cheque but because of that they had to call the fraud squad haha

they rang me up and came around for a friendly chat took my cheques got me to foward all his emails to them , they said its happerning all the time nigerian scams they cant do anything

makes you wonder if some of these guys are living here got a free ticket to australia

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getting the bottom line final answer from a bunch of blokes that use false names and put smiley faces at the end of paragraphs is not the best place in the world to get the information you seek.

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Overpayment is how they catch

Fri, 2011-01-14 21:55

Overpayment is how they catch most folks, anything that is" i paid you to much send me back the difference "is a scam, sometimes the moneys in your bank account depending on how they pay you,,but that moneys sitting there to be cleared and it does not in the end,,in the mean time you sent back ASAP money for them,,your own personal money,

 

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 Happened to me on Gumtree a

Fri, 2011-01-14 22:38

 Happened to me on Gumtree a few weeks back, they texted me instead though. 

Knew it was a scam when I googled the email address they sent me.

The number was an australian number, so I called them up and screamed at them.

If anybody wants to have a go at them here's their number 0420248172. :)

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Been through all of the above

Fri, 2011-01-14 23:13

Been through all of the above since advertising the daughter's car...

As soon as they mention offshore/overseas/paypal etc I reply cash or bank cheque on pickup only. Don't hear back after that.

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 i had several try to do the

Fri, 2011-01-14 23:48

 i had several try to do the same with me. basically told them to f    off. 

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I have a friend who got

Sat, 2011-01-15 07:05

I have a friend who got scammed big time.
He was on a dating website, where he was hooking up with "hot blonde chick". We told him she looked to good to be true, but he's a bit thick. Anyway, she was from USA and needed a bit of cash to fly over and see him.
$2400 later, she missed her flight and needed another $700.
We told him to give up, she is probably a fat dirty old man anyway.
All you lonely blokes out there..... dont trust dating websites!!