is there anything worse than a pinger ... yes

just a quik post to get this out of my system .
went out of 2 rocks saturday and a pleasent day it was untilli experienced what a call the rudest act i have ever seen in 20 years of fishing out wide. pingers are low and i never beleived i would experience anything that would upset me so much on the water. we were fishing a lump round the 35 m mark when i noticed a largish whit boat belting along only to notice him alter his course to come towards me , realising that he was commin to check us out i thought "yep another pinger" only to have him set a drift less than 50 m infront so he would cover the ground before me. perhaps the lowest thing you could do out on the water as far as im concerned were has all the etticut gone? sorry bout the winge but i had to get it out of my system!
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Yup Brenz

Mon, 2008-11-10 11:13

Think most of us have experienced similar. Some people just don't understand the honest joy of finding their own spots and respecting the space of others.

 

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I'm hearin ya Brenz it is a

Mon, 2008-11-10 11:21

I'm hearin ya Brenz it is a dog act. Why don't the low life pricks put in there own time to find spots.

So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!

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Bad enough pinging the spot,

Mon, 2008-11-10 11:28

Bad enough pinging the spot, let alone jumping right in front of you to steal the drift as well.  

Hows your aim casting a nice heavy sinker brenz Wink

 

(that or somehow loop around the boat with a line in tow, clip the line to the other end so it circles the boat, then drive off. Your noose will wrap all their lines together. Then just cut your line and cruise off)

 

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This has happened the last 2

Mon, 2008-11-10 11:56

This has happened the last 2 times we have gone out! Problem is, if ya cast your sinker at em, they would probably find a way to cut the line and steal your rig aswell! 

 

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I think there

Mon, 2008-11-10 12:45

is absolute low lifes out there Brenz, next unfortunately I think there will be instead of road rage there be boat rage,  try have a professional  (charter) do that to you, it happened to us and the pr....k kept drifiting towards us, but he didn't know Bob had pulled a 18kg dhuie off of his (Bob's) spot and I'd got two nice snapper.

 

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had a simular exeprience on sunday

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:06

had a simular exeprience on sunday up here in NT.

We had come to a spot and dropped anchor, only to have it drag, so while we upped anchor and moved back around again, another boat hanging out away from us and following us tried to nip in and grab the lump and anchor up on it!!!. Well lets just say my skipper is 6foot 4 and 250lbs with ease and not scared to scratch his Quinnie!!! so the boy upped and moved before we rode back on our anchor line into him.... Harsh yes, but they say up here, don't touch a mans drink, woman or his fishing spot without a fight!!!

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I was drifting for squid in

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:08

I was drifting for squid in the sound on saturday and a boat rocked up and drop the anchor 100m from me.

so I had to start the motor and move off or would of crashed into him..

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But.........

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:26

Every bloke and his dog has some of the popular spots programmed - if you accused every boat that rocks up at the 4 mile, the 12 mile and the Coral Lumps down here of pinging you, you would p... o.. nearly every fisho in the Capes/Busselton region.

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yes but if some one is

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:47

yes but if some one is fishing the lump you were heading towards then move on to your next 1 its just common eticutt *excuse the spelling

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Courtesy

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:48

True Ian but common courtesy would suggest that if someone is already on a spot/drift then the latecomer should look elsewhere or at the bare minimum keep a respectable distance.

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Or if theres not enough

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:52

Or if theres not enough lumps to go round, do like we had to do at the FAD at the end of the season this year, queue up and take turns drifting past.

 

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the ocean is plenty big

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:55

the ocean is plenty big enough and good ground is different to a fad as there is plenty of good ground. this may start an arguement but i beleive first in best dressed if you make the effort to get there earlier than the rest then the spot is yours. no i do not own the ocean but a little respect to other boaties goes along way
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ha ha or could be like our

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:56

ha ha or could be like our saturday at the containers , many small boats taking their turn drifting over the marks untill a juiced up charter boat decided to park on us , well done guy's . The small boats were going ok except for one which thought he could only turn at full speed in close courses with the other boats creating bow waves on a dead calm sea .

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you get many sambys

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:57

you get many sambys feral?

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none eh , only mulloway fish

Mon, 2008-11-10 13:59

none eh , only mulloway fish were holding pretty thick on one mark about ten metres from floor to the top of the school.

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Pingers

Mon, 2008-11-10 15:21

Yep, Just finished talking to a mate about the same thing that happened to him. My mate had just pulled 2 Dhuies and a pinky, when this boat decided to drift the lump as well. He caught a ray, but I think the irony was wasted on him.

I have a suggestion though. If the boat name was published on Fishwrecked, surely someone  would know the boat owner, have the low act brought to his attention and he may change his evil ways??? Unbelievable as it sounds, he may (just may) be a fishwrecked member. Additionally, he may not realise the etiquette required, living in ignorance.

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Little Dinghy!

Mon, 2008-11-10 15:50

15 nautical miles from land, drifting about half a km away...zooms straight over to within 50 metres, and I can see his greasy little nose-pickin' finger going a hundred miles an hour on his handheld GPS. My mate wanted to wipe him off the face of the earth but I said if we start getting animated about it he might think he's onto a good spot, where if he doesn't catch anything, he might never go to that spot again.

I should've taken a pic of his little boat, rego number included, with the faint silhouette of the land in the distant background, and sent it to the DPI 'cause I know there are rules regarding small boats that far from shore.

Anyway, there are too many brain dead moronic oxygen thieves on the water every weekend during summer...I tend to either go very early or go during the week this time of year.

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Who's spot???????????????????????????????

Mon, 2008-11-10 16:08

If a boat comes near where your fishing how do you know it isnt a spot they have found in the past?
He may be thinkin you stole his spot! It isnt nice but at the end of the day its a free ocean and you cant do bugger all about it. Its no differant to someone sitting next to you on a jetty. You cant just tell them to bugger off! How many people have pinged cray pots and then fished that ground? Same thing isnt it? Spots get given about to mates and people all the time in return for goods or services and swapping spots. I agree that it isnt very polite to fish close to other boats but i guess they are there to fish too.
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sorry Brenz

Mon, 2008-11-10 16:10

I'll queue up behind your drift next time.

 

 

But for serious, thats pretty rude. If they were that close I would have told them what I thought of their "effort" and taken down a few details for follow up later.

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are they really fishing?

Mon, 2008-11-10 17:08

Mate that is a dog act - we've had the same thing at Exmouth at all places. Jeez if you cant find your own fish up there, you shouldnt be fishing.

I reckon at least half of the fun is the search - the hunt. Who are these people? What do they want out of fishing? Do they just want the fish? They should just go to the fish shop.

It frustrates me no end when people have that attitude of just wanting the fish, without the effort or knowledge of how to find them and therefore how they work, what they eat, how they survive in their watery world. This knowledge is not only essential for their own fishing art (give a man/woman a fish, feed him/her for a day, teach a man/woman to fish, feed him/her for a lifetime), but is also essential for the survival of the fish, in my view. People have to realise where they come from, how old they are, what food they rely on, maybe even what other fish they feed, in order to make good decisions about management regimes, political party policies, etc. Not just buy a boat, with GPS and get some spots to thrash.

Can you imagine the fishing pressure that is exerted on these spots? Where people can return or ping to the nearest 10m? How are our fish supposed to grow old and breed lots when we are queing up to catch them?

Perhaps we can note down the boat rego numbers of the offenders and shame them online...?

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Pinging!!!

Mon, 2008-11-10 17:23

Had just started a drift over a lump off Koks island when this prick drives right up next to us, drops his pick on it and yells out that someone else knows his spot!!!couldn't believe my ears,let him know in no certain terms what I thought of him.Anyway we drifted on and picked up a couple of double headers of pinkies and he looked as if he got stuff all---right whack the prick

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i agree with rodrat,i have a

Mon, 2008-11-10 18:02

i agree with rodrat,i have a heap of spots out of rocky and when i head out to some gps marks ,boats r sitting right on them,so alot of the time we r not pinging other peoples spots were just goin to our usual spots only to find someone there,not to many lumps out of rocky and good ground is usually found by the help of cray pots imo
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Rodrat

Mon, 2008-11-10 18:36

is right in my view,and I do not know the answerjersey

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I had the same problem

Mon, 2008-11-10 19:28

 I had the same problem the other week...fishing away and a bloody Dolphin rocks up..cheeky bugger. I told him to piss off and he just hung around. Im sure he was pinging me!

 

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So much aggression!

Tue, 2008-11-11 06:39

Ettiquette is fine - don't cut across someones drift and don't anchor within 50 metres of another anchored boat or anchor where they they are drifting if they were there first. But as i said in the first place, some spots are better known than the Opera House and they are going to be busier than the Mitchell Freeway in rush hour. Being of a relegious nature i would think "Do unto others as they would do unto you" Bless you all.

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Still a good principle even

Tue, 2008-11-11 08:13

Still a good principle even if you aren't religious Wink

 

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The rules of etiquette are rapidly disappearing

Tue, 2008-11-11 07:20

unfortunately Brendan. It is on the roads, in business, in the shops and - unfortunately - in fishing.
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Frustrating

Tue, 2008-11-11 07:20

but my brother says it is a lot worse around the East coast where it gets quite violent with sinker throwing and worse.

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Rednecks

Tue, 2008-11-11 09:25

no wonder things are grim.......this country is littered with rude morally corrupted people who dont give a stuff about other people......what happened to the community spirit of doing the right thing.....

 

what happen to the people who can tell the difference between right and wrong....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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pingers

Tue, 2008-11-11 09:30

we were next in line to retrieve our boat when another boat came flying in trying to get in front. just trimmed the motor up some and let rip and absolutley sprayed the beastard with water and dreached his whole boat and crew.....needless to say he backed up somewhat.  

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With gps

Tue, 2008-11-11 09:47

 yes we've found coming up to one of our spots and there is somebody on it, so we just putter off to the next spot, try being pinged by a small navy boat (those ones Austal were building), Bob's fishing (own his own) away navy boats comes close blasted its horn, get out the way we are shooting live ammo,we want this spot.  needless to say be packed up and come in to the sound and had a squid.  My warped sense of humour thought it was funny but his lord ship was a little bit pi...ed off, as he was getting good nibbles and thought theirs a big dhuie down there.

 

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