To share or NOT to share new gps marks with crew

I dont have many crew because the crew i have got are the best you can get,i share ALL my marks with him and we get along great together

what im asking is if a new crew member comes out with you and tells you he has a GPS with him what what do you all do with that ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

you go to your spots and you dont tell then not to put them in there gps [becase they are yours},but if you find a new spot is your crew intittled to the news??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM I HAVE but i want to here what other skippers do and think

jeff

ps: i have a hand held and i take it ever where i go but i ASK before i even turn it on


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Frisk them before they come

Sat, 2010-04-10 21:02

Frisk them before they come aboard, I also blindfold deckies on inshore lumps so they can't nick my craying lumps.

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If a deckie tells you he has

Sat, 2010-04-10 21:23

If a deckie tells you he has a GPS on him throw him overboard,,,,Wink

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not very good manners in my

Sat, 2010-04-10 21:26

not very good manners in my view

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not at all good manners If

Sat, 2010-04-10 21:34

not at all good manners

If he/she is a good crew you would tell them the spot anyway so why would he bring a gps

I would never ask him on my boat even if he was a mate

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GPS

Sat, 2010-04-10 21:35

Went out off Cape Naturaliste with a mate years back and he said not to look at the gps on this one spot.Took about 30 seconds and he said he will give it to me as I already had the land marks,I told him not to worry as it is his spot and would remain his.Never went near it even working as a pro in the same area.
Later when I was getting out of pro fishing I let him copy my marks book for the same reason that he would use them but never pass them round.

It comes down to trust.how much do you trust them not to flog the spot to death or pass it on.

Had a top bloke from fisheries research on the boat when working as a pro and he said that there had been many times out on overnight trips anchored on a lump not far from an even better one that he had been to before on an opposition boat but couldn't say because if he did he could lose the trust built up over the years with the fishermen,lose that and the source of most of the research data would disappear

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im the same as ever one else

Sat, 2010-04-10 21:36

im the same as ever one else with my spots are my spot ,but there is bifferent views on to take or not to take ????

till i tryed blindfold my deckies but it got wet and fell off

jeff

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i dont take many out but it

Sat, 2010-04-10 22:14

i dont take many out but it wouldnt bother me as i never get too many fish anyway. seriously you do have to think about what would happen if you did give out your good spots. we have one good spot for kg's and that spot has only been given to a couple of people and wont give it to anyone else. you work hard for some good spots why would you let others take it. as far as a hand held gps i would be asking for it so he or she isnt tempted to mark the spots

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Tricky One

Sun, 2010-04-11 07:15

Had a mate of a mate show me a spot in the bay for pinkies a while back.

A few months later I took him out on the west coast for a bottom bash. When we were just leaving he pulled out a hand held GPS. Didnt say anything because he had shown me a spot before.

Later on I found out this guy had passed on a few of the spots I showed him to his best mate, then his best mate past them on to his dad and his dad past them on to one of his mates. Before I new it half of Dunsborough had the spots. 

Didnt mind showing him the spots but it pissed me off that he passed them on. IMO if you find a spot yourself you have the right to pass it on but if someone gives you a spot it isn't yours to give away. 

Now I don't allow deckies to bring GPS with them and will ask guys I don,t know if they have one on board. If a mate wants a spot and I can trust him I will give it to him later.

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im the same menopaul has all

Sun, 2010-04-11 07:24

im the same menopaul has all my gps marks,i gave him acopy of my card as we fish together most times ,but as for others NO GPS, I am happy to give out gps marks to friends but would not like it if they thought they could come and mark all the spots for the day no way...

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Seaquest these are comment

Sun, 2010-04-11 07:52

Seaquest these are comment we may have problems with we share with one person and all the sudden ever one has them, all that looking and your hard work is gone and so are your fish , we all share marks with people we trust,but the people they trust are the ones that we dont trust with the marks

Paul G i think we are all along those lines we trust in a slect fue with our prize marks

jeff

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same thing has happened

Sun, 2010-04-11 08:01

with harpuka hill last year no one new where it was went out last weekend and there was six boats sitting on it .  65 km trip out there to find you cant fish it , its become the new hay street 

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different kettle of fish

Sun, 2010-04-11 20:00

i think neil!!!

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i'd never dream of taking a

Sun, 2010-04-11 12:23

i'd never dream of taking a GPS on someone elses boat unless we are fishing one of my spots and i have consented. I will share spots with those i feel will do the right thing but there are those you only fish with a certian few. You must respect the wishes of the skipper/person giving you the spot.

 

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over board

Sun, 2010-04-11 18:42

throw em overboard -  i would never take a gps on someone elses boat thats wrong

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gps question

Sun, 2010-04-11 19:15

say u take a gps with you but dont turn it on unless asked too ,and what if you fish the skippers marks with no result ? then you suggest fishing a couple of your marks and catch good fish ,day all good not everyone is that low they are out to ping spots, some of us have our own by spending farkin years lookin like everyone else aye,

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rog

Sun, 2010-04-11 19:33

Roger that Craig, I take mine with me as a fall back option.  Skipper's boat GPS goes down, we can get back in, his spots fail - mine may work.  I generally only fish with Deepwater or the missus, but if I do go out with other crew up here, then I don't use it, but its always with me and its always an option if things are quiet.  Perth would probably be a different story.

Btw, heard all about that one Neil! LoL.  No real suprise though.

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I find my own spots and I would never take it

Sun, 2010-04-11 20:23

for granted that some one else is going to give me spots. I swap a few spots with other people but that is our choice. i wouldnt do it with everyone though. there would be no need for this bloke to bring a gps in your boat unless he was showing you a spot off it. He wouldnt get another trip and we would be fishing on sand all day for flatties if he did that to me..

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I have a GPS

Mon, 2010-04-12 14:48

on board and now a handheld as a back-up. If I took someone (new deckie etc) out fishing and they were marking spots with their own GPS, I wouldn't be impressed. They wouldn't be on my boat ever again. If it was my mates, then it wouldn't bother me.

 

Not that I have any great spots (a few pinkie and kg spots, but thats about it), but with a lot of the places I fish, its not so much the spot (a lot of them are well known and not very remarkable), but the techniques of fishing them that has taken me a lot of trips and attempts to get perfected.

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Must admit if i found

Mon, 2010-04-12 15:18

Must admit if i found someone on my boat with a hand held using it, it would be a quick trip back to the baot ramp and they would be off....

However im going up to exmouth, and got a couple blokes up there I'd like to go for a fish with, they are local and im not. I dont have any particular spots so in not concerned at all.

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Ask for all deckies shoe

Mon, 2010-04-12 15:28

Ask for all deckies shoe size before getting on board. Mafia stylz

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trust and confidence

Mon, 2010-04-12 17:24

i would be telling the new deckie to leave his GPS behind and let him know my thoughts if found out he had one copying my spots whilst out on the water, if i have a spot and feel i can trust the other person to not spread it around i would pass the spots on. majority of my metro spots are for me as i have done all of the ground work up north i have passed several around but assess how good the location is and howit would cope with even more rigs hitting the mark

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GPS marks

Mon, 2010-04-12 18:10

Happy to sell mine before I head north Wink

Depends, like everything in life.

If it's mates then why not spread the love but if they just harvest the same spot them why bother.

The key for me is whether they sportfish of fill the freezer (but that's just me).

For the record, I dont mark spots with my handheld on any boat other than mine......

For me I am also happy to trade marks, one for one