Fisheries lecture............
After we had checked our four pots this morning and we were heading back into Kalbarri I noticed a rope in the water with no floats attached, what we locals used to always do is pull the pot and drop the pot and rope off to the VMR office at the boat ramp, but on arriving back at the ramp Fisheries were around checking everyones catch, when queried why I had the one pot in the boat I explained what we were doing and the Fisheries officer become quite agitated and starting getting all uptight. I again explained that thats what we do in Kalbarri, rather than leave an unmarked rope in the water to get tangled in someones prop, he advised me I should leave the pot where it is and advise the Geraldton Fisheries office of the position of the pot and they will come up and pick up the pot, because in their opinion it is not a hazard.
Yes technically we could have been prosecuted for pulling 5 pots, but we were doing the sensible thing, or so we thought, and delivering the pot to VMR who let people know that a pot has been handed in and if the person can identify the pot etc they can claim the pot, with possibly a donation to VMR. Two pots were handed in this morning to Kalbarri VMR, both with no floats attached.
So be aware if you find rope etc out there while you are pulling your pots etc, just note the co-ordiates and either advise Fisheries or VMR and they will collect the offending pot.
Lecture received and lesson learned.
Wiser Old Banga!
OLD BANGA
opsrey
Posts: 1200
Date Joined: 05/10/07
Takes a fair bit to get a bit of thanks.
The old days seem like dots in the rear vision mirror.
"Common sense , that's no good for a resume. And besides, now I have something to talk about in an interview."
Well I'll do it - Thanks Banga , thanks for making the sea way a little safer and thanks for getting some rubbish out of the local waters. Nice job.
Skull
Posts: 630
Date Joined: 03/01/12
So Stupid
While I feel fisheries on the whole do a good job, it is stupidity to think that a Fisheries officer will travel from Geraldton to Kalbarri just to retrieve a reported floating rope which may or may not have something attached to it. That is absolute rubbish. What a waste of limited resources.
While most Fisheries officers come across really well and are easy to talk to, unfortunately there is always the guy who wants to bully and threated and not listen to reason.
What you did in my opinion was the correct thing, you may have averted the need for Sea Rescue and or Police to be called out to rescue someone who's prop has been damaged by the rope.
Recently off Hillaries we found a copper log floating in the water, we didn't leave it there, we pulled it on board and took it into shore when we returned to the ramp, just because it was a hazard.
Keep up the good work OLD BANGA, I for one don't beleive that you did anything wrong.
Skull
dumper
Posts: 1027
Date Joined: 03/04/08
(No subject)
tangles
Posts: 1367
Date Joined: 17/12/06
yep
yep glenn n I bet it wasnt the normal fisheries bloke thats been comn up here for years. Prob sum young ass cowboy straight out of of do it by the book school.!
I wouldnt have been so cordial unfortunately. Barri is a bit different n if they dont like it they can go back to perth!
Deleted
Posts: 6265
Date Joined: 26/04/14
so they shouldnt enforce the
so they shouldnt enforce the rules the same way as they do in perth, interesting
Sulo
Posts: 256
Date Joined: 13/08/11
Next time just remember to
Next time just remember to say well it is my pot but I had to bring it back in cos it has no floats... Although you might get done for having a pot without your gear ID on the floats, oh and for not having floats....
A world gone mad!!!
crasny1
Posts: 7002
Date Joined: 16/10/08
Same thing happened with us
In Peel estuary. A floatless old crab pot in the channel (and it was old, covered in slime and growth). About 10m of robe. We only saw it because we were slowly cruising. I summed up it was a hazard and pulled it. Obviously was old.
Got checked by fisheries and told them the story. They said it was illegal to do that, and if seen in future to GPS it and notify marine and Harbours or themselves.
Started counting my pots and LUCKILY for me I lost a pot previously and had nine onboard plus the lost one, so didnt have any above the limit. They said I was lucky because they would HAVE to ping me if I carried more than 10!!!!
I still prefer tyo be checked by Fisheries as I hope they protect the stock but advised them I thought it was stupid, and that I didnt want a boat to collect the rope. A nice debate followed but as they had no proof the pot wasnt mine they said they couldnt charge me for pulling it, but advised against it for the future.
Dumper is spot on with this. I was a little mentally deranged after the lack of common sense.
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
tangles
Posts: 1367
Date Joined: 17/12/06
ashy
its probably ashy or glassy running pots over anyway they love chopping pots did when they worked n do as amateurs
Mick
Posts: 501
Date Joined: 28/08/06
Exactly who I was thnking
Exactly who I was thnking Tang,Ashy. I thought the old fella had retired to the farm!!
If the lord did not mean for us to eat fish and game, he wouldn't have made them outta meat
The speed of light is faster than the speed of sound. That's why so many people appear bright...until they speak.
Auslobster
Posts: 1901
Date Joined: 03/05/08
Bad apple syndrome...
...how upset do most of us on here get when we hear/read about pot thieves/stealing crays/etc...these same scum would just as easily remove the floats from a pot and say it was theirs. Fisheries have to draw the line somewhere, regardless of weeks/months worth of marine growth on the rope.
And telling a fisheries officer that "this is how we do it in Kalbarri" probably ain't gonna get a happy outcome!
Mike74
Posts: 55
Date Joined: 16/03/09
The Fine wouldn't stick
If you were fined (under these circumstances, no other breach etc) and chose to contest it I'm pretty sure the magistrate would rule in your favour (may even include the cost of contest), the fisheries officer would have known that and that's probably why he went with the lecture rather than the paperwork. On the whole fisheries do a half decent job but just like every other enforcement agency in Australia the have a few officers that like to throw their weight around.
Don't let them get to you Old Banga, what you did is what any reasonable person would do and that's all they can ask of you.
Evolution 552X Platinum
Walfootrot
Posts: 1385
Date Joined: 23/07/12
OK, so J bloggs goes out and
OK, so J bloggs goes out and knocks off a pot, cut the floats off and brings the pot in. No fisheries at the ramp... pot gone.
Just saying
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
sea-kem
Posts: 14960
Date Joined: 30/11/09
Yep there are very valid
Yep there are very valid reasons for why you can't do that Old banga. While your intention was very noble and basic common sense it's also against the law. Best bet would be to just pull the rope up a reasonable way and cut it off for safety sake.
Love the West!
Mike74
Posts: 55
Date Joined: 16/03/09
Point taken
I do agree with what your saying (Walfootrot), however, if fisheries aren't present then there is no issue. Sea-kem's solution is probably the the best way to deal with it, although the person who loses the pot may think otherwise. I was only talking about the actual situation faced by Old Banga and not anything else.
I would think that any lowlife filth who would steal someone elses gear would more than likely be shifty enough to either head straight back out once they realise that Fisheries are at the ramp and checking or find another way to conceal the fact that they had someone else's pot in their possession.
Evolution 552X Platinum
Walfootrot
Posts: 1385
Date Joined: 23/07/12
You could always put an
You could always put an unmarked float on the rope and then tell the fisheries... $5 for a float
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
sea-kem
Posts: 14960
Date Joined: 30/11/09
Like your lateral thinking
Like your lateral thinking Wal
Love the West!
Mike74
Posts: 55
Date Joined: 16/03/09
You're a shifty dude...
You're a shifty dude...
Evolution 552X Platinum
crasny1
Posts: 7002
Date Joined: 16/10/08
Here is the story to do with
Here is the story to do with the crab nets left unattended. I pulled them last year and posted about the implication:
Called fisheries to clarrify:
Posts: 5440
Date Joined: 16/10/08
Spoke to fisheries.
What I did was and is an offense!!! However not punishable now
It IS an offense to have more than 10 pots onboard. You are not allowed to have a "spare(s)"
The correct proceedure is to gps coordinate them and then report to fisheries.
If it is an obvious old pot and you dont have 10 onboard you can retrieve it as rubbish but you better have proof its old like covered in weed etc.
Certainly thought I was doing the right thing, but proved not to be legal if I was stopped.
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
jamey ford
Posts: 174
Date Joined: 25/05/11
Simple in future its your
Simple in future its your own pot bringing it back in to fix it, we ran into a fuckwit like this at Leeuwin the other weak , sort of idiot who if put in a uniform all the blood drains from his brain to his cock, even his partner addmitted he was an anal fuckwit, who had been dobbed in by fishos in Rockingham way for infringing fisheries rules, well hated in that neck of the woods I imagine, can understand why , spoke to people like shit an absolute arseclown , mind you you get them everywhere .
Far Quirk!
jamey ford
Posts: 174
Date Joined: 25/05/11
Simple in future its your
Simple in future its your own pot bringing it back in to fix it, we ran into a fuckwit like this at Leeuwin the other weak , sort of idiot who if put in a uniform all the blood drains from his brain to his cock, even his partner addmitted he was an anal fuckwit, who had been dobbed in by fishos in Rockingham way for infringing fisheries rules, well hated in that neck of the woods I imagine, can understand why , spoke to people like shit an absolute arseclown , mind you you get them everywhere .
Far Quirk!
petermac
Posts: 2946
Date Joined: 03/03/10
in a nut shell
in a nut shell you have got it right
petermac
Posts: 2946
Date Joined: 03/03/10
so you plot the position
so fisheries want you to plot the position of said pot (navigation hazard)report it , what if you don't have a gps , you did the righty old banger
catchalittle
Posts: 1875
Date Joined: 04/09/08
I did exactly the same thing
I did exactly the same thing last year but to cover my butt rang the fisheries office in Freo told them what I was going to do got a name and id and they met me at Leeuwin ramp and pot was taken away funny thing I got a phone call two weeks later saying they had contacted owner who had decided he did not want the pot so they then offered it to me otherwise it was going to be disposed of always have a back up plan and cover your butt
Nathan
randall df223
Posts: 6454
Date Joined: 08/08/11
Good thinking and good
Good thinking and good karma!
Fish! HARD!
sea-kem
Posts: 14960
Date Joined: 30/11/09
Haven't seen you on here for
Haven't seen you on here for a while Nathan, hope all's well.
Love the West!