Thats awesome Kasey. How's the size of the mouth on it.
You wouldn't think something like that would waste its energy chasing such a small meal. Maybe it was more a case of showing the pesky baitfish who's boss.
Can I ask what style of jigging you use for demersals?
I have been trying it lately with 90g searocks and having mixed results. If I rip it like I'm jigging for a sambo I have mainly caught wrasse and other crap fish, though on sunday we hit a school of snapper and they reacted well but all 30cm.
But if i gently lift and let it go back down pretty much nothing, and if I do, it hasn't hooked up.
Cheers Dean
p.s. understand if you don't want to tell your secrets.
Congrats Kasey, a very nice fish indeed and a jig capture even better. I do well on jigs with all bottom species bar baldchin and 15kg dhu on jig is my PB....i want one of those :)
Dean, demersal fish like dhues can react differently on a given day i found, really your trying to find their trigger and often it's predatory.....not food always. Some days my twich jig in small movements worked up well off the bottom works and dhue's will follow it right up and hit. Some days i get em with a slower more lower retrieve ie half the distance up.....mix it up and jigs imo are to be the correct size/weight then comes the action.
Kasey may have another way and shed some light on what he does, well done again buddy, a fish of a life time for sure.
Sunday we found a massive school of pinkies but all were small, they did react well to the jigs, yet to get a dhuie but thats my aim, Can't seem to find any of the bigger ones lately aswell, all around 3-5kg mark.
Yeh Dean i'm finding a lot of small pinks and dhues also. I'm still tangling with patches of bigger dhues and pinks but i'm moving around heaps. I know of a nice 12kg pink snapper (huge bump head) came out of 40m of water up your way on Sunday....stonker pink (on bait)
We hit up north mindarie on sunday found and area which held fish on flat ground? there was nothing on the sounder which had structure but had about 8 dhuies on the screen, 2 undersize and 1 at 60cm then moved on. Also went past Tony (nebraska).
Don't mind catching 4kg dhuies, there good on the tooth!
Planets aligned for me. hooked in this nostril; yes still smiling.
I don't think I can overstate how much credit the skipper deserves though. thanks again to mr. andy! it could not have happened if not for your generosity in taking me out on your boat, bringing me to your spots, setting it up for the right drift, then sitting OUT on this drift to rerig only for me to drop down and do this, then capture it all on tape, and spend the time to take snaps (even to reposition the boat so the sun is the right way).
so really all I did was jag it in the nose. I think I broke most of the 'preferred deckie rules' too. :P
And he also refused to accept any of the fillets afterwards, despite my protests and trying to leave them behind. So really he deserves most of credit! But please don't inundate the poor man with PMs though, hehe :) thank you very much again.
I have no secrets Dean, and I wouldn't even say I have that much experience; just some time and patience to watch and analyse videos; look for some jigging technique ones and maybe you wont understand the Japanese but their actions speak louder than words.
Am also lucky (or maybe stubborn enough to search) for kind advice from people who have been doing this for ages. I am just a young grasshopper trying to snatch the pebble from the hand....
And ryan is absolutely correct, there is no 1 prescribed way of working it. slow, twitching, maybe bit faster, maybe with pauses; 5m from bottom, 10m from bottom, you throw it all out and see what you get back. understand what you are trying to do; imitate a fish. If you can't convince yourself, you can't convince a fish. Same with bait, soft plastics, anything I guess. add in luck, and hard work.
120 g spot on, in ~50m of water. I think an important key for demersals is: how small can you go?
haha, i reckon a few more jigs will be sold by shops this month...
I don't go out expecting anything; ask andy, i brought up some fillets in the morning just in case I couldn't do my part and haul in something for a feed!
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With a treble, I get snagged too easily, and I don't like losing rigs ($$), although I have considered it. I use a single assist when aiming for larger, aggressive predators like samsons and amberjack who just gulp it down so the hook-up is not so much an issue. I learnt from watching dvd by Mr. Koichi Kubo to use two stingers for demersals, with the barb facing opposite directions. So if a fish hits one, the other swinging hook will catch too, much like a 'pincer' and once that locks in you achieve a solid hook-up that is very hard to shake off. In this case, I doubt I would have landed it with just one assist.
It is a trade-off; hooks small enough allow you to get smaller mouthed fish like pinkies and baldies; but maybe on a bucketmouth like this, it would be hard to catch save for somehting this lucky. Makes me think of all the 'hits' that never hooked up.
Hope this advice helps Just passing on what others have passed onto me.
Not that Im any expert but I believe depth is very important when considering jig weight .....plus you need specialist gear to pump 400gm of metal....
Smaller jigs 40-120gms suitable for 10-50m other than SeaRocks and Daiwa Sacrifice butterfly leafs are hard to find.....but they are out there the more people ask the more chance of tackle shops ordering in the smaller sizes....
Kc you are responsible for me burning a big hole in my wallet lately.....going to need a fridge trolley to carry my tackle bag around now
Just read your article Kasey, great cover shot too I might add. Ahh, bringing back memories of a sensational day on the water. Just think, the two fish you dropped at the "dropzone" could have been even bigger dhuies.
Just bought myself some more gear so I might have to give the jigging another go (but in small doses as I am getting old and get tired too easily).
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sweet
Awesome stuff mate - top bloody catch and welcome to the club
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Oh my lord!
My reels screaming zzzzzzz.... awwww damn it, its another boat!
All the best for the future fishing trips.
Cheers.... Jangles
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A mouth only a mother would love
Nice fish m8
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Dean
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Can I ask what style of
I have been trying it lately with 90g searocks and having mixed results. If I rip it like I'm jigging for a sambo I have mainly caught wrasse and other crap fish, though on sunday we hit a school of snapper and they reacted well but all 30cm.
But if i gently lift and let it go back down pretty much nothing, and if I do, it hasn't hooked up.
Cheers
Dean
p.s. understand if you don't want to tell your secrets.
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Foul hooked
Must of been foul hooked aye. Cmon, just one pic of how big it was overall. Sure the hotbite mob won't mind... :)
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Nah they wont mind
But Kc will be disappointed they dont print it
Well done KC....
Persistance pays off
Interesting it was a green colour flashy jig....the same that was working up North
weight???? looks like 120gms?????
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congrats.....a stonker on jig!
Congrats Kasey, a very nice fish indeed and a jig capture even better. I do well on jigs with all bottom species bar baldchin and 15kg dhu on jig is my PB....i want one of those :)
Dean, demersal fish like dhues can react differently on a given day i found, really your trying to find their trigger and often it's predatory.....not food always. Some days my twich jig in small movements worked up well off the bottom works and dhue's will follow it right up and hit. Some days i get em with a slower more lower retrieve ie half the distance up.....mix it up and jigs imo are to be the correct size/weight then comes the action.
Kasey may have another way and shed some light on what he does, well done again buddy, a fish of a life time for sure.
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Or thanks ryan. Sunday we
Or thanks ryan.
Sunday we found a massive school of pinkies but all were small, they did react well to the jigs, yet to get a dhuie but thats my aim, Can't seem to find any of the bigger ones lately aswell, all around 3-5kg mark.
What jigs would you reccomend?
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yeh, the same
Yeh Dean i'm finding a lot of small pinks and dhues also. I'm still tangling with patches of bigger dhues and pinks but i'm moving around heaps. I know of a nice 12kg pink snapper (huge bump head) came out of 40m of water up your way on Sunday....stonker pink (on bait)
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SPESS
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Top stuff kasey! Anything
Top stuff kasey! Anything that you cant get on a jigg? lol. Awsome stuff.
Keep it tight, reeeeeeel tight!
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Sounds very nice!
Sounds very nice!
We hit up north mindarie on sunday found and area which held fish on flat ground? there was nothing on the sounder which had structure but had about 8 dhuies on the screen, 2 undersize and 1 at 60cm then moved on. Also went past Tony (nebraska).
Don't mind catching 4kg dhuies, there good on the tooth!
Kasey L.
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very lucky
Planets aligned for me. hooked in this nostril; yes still smiling.
I don't think I can overstate how much credit the skipper deserves though. thanks again to mr. andy! it could not have happened if not for your generosity in taking me out on your boat, bringing me to your spots, setting it up for the right drift, then sitting OUT on this drift to rerig only for me to drop down and do this, then capture it all on tape, and spend the time to take snaps (even to reposition the boat so the sun is the right way).
so really all I did was jag it in the nose. I think I broke most of the 'preferred deckie rules' too. :P
And he also refused to accept any of the fillets afterwards, despite my protests and trying to leave them behind. So really he deserves most of credit! But please don't inundate the poor man with PMs though, hehe :) thank you very much again.
Kasey L.
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no secrets
I have no secrets Dean, and I wouldn't even say I have that much experience; just some time and patience to watch and analyse videos; look for some jigging technique ones and maybe you wont understand the Japanese but their actions speak louder than words.
Am also lucky (or maybe stubborn enough to search) for kind advice from people who have been doing this for ages. I am just a young grasshopper trying to snatch the pebble from the hand....
And ryan is absolutely correct, there is no 1 prescribed way of working it. slow, twitching, maybe bit faster, maybe with pauses; 5m from bottom, 10m from bottom, you throw it all out and see what you get back. understand what you are trying to do; imitate a fish. If you can't convince yourself, you can't convince a fish. Same with bait, soft plastics, anything I guess. add in luck, and hard work.
120 g spot on, in ~50m of water. I think an important key for demersals is: how small can you go?
enough hints? :P
Dean
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Yeah thanks Kasey Next few
Yeah thanks Kasey
Next few trips I will be jigging only and see what I get.
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Great fish!!Like to know how
Like to know how many years it dodged hooks for??
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damn ...thats a good bloody
damn ...thats a good bloody fish.....nice 1 kasey..once in a life time cacth on jig....well done
the more u fish..the less stress u get....
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Well done Kasey top catch
Well done Kasey top catch mate
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Top Stuff KC!
Scotte
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well done kasey, quality!
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Me and my son pick some up today
In the special basket for only 9.95 each /300g and 400g/ We took the lot
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Kasey L.
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haha, i reckon a few more
haha, i reckon a few more jigs will be sold by shops this month...
Just passing on what others have passed onto me.
I don't go out expecting anything; ask andy, i brought up some fillets in the morning just in case I couldn't do my part and haul in something for a feed!
---
With a treble, I get snagged too easily, and I don't like losing rigs ($$), although I have considered it. I use a single assist when aiming for larger, aggressive predators like samsons and amberjack who just gulp it down so the hook-up is not so much an issue. I learnt from watching dvd by Mr. Koichi Kubo to use two stingers for demersals, with the barb facing opposite directions. So if a fish hits one, the other swinging hook will catch too, much like a 'pincer' and once that locks in you achieve a solid hook-up that is very hard to shake off. In this case, I doubt I would have landed it with just one assist.
It is a trade-off; hooks small enough allow you to get smaller mouthed fish like pinkies and baldies; but maybe on a bucketmouth like this, it would be hard to catch save for somehting this lucky. Makes me think of all the 'hits' that never hooked up.
Hope this advice helps
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well done kasey top effort
well done kasey top effort mate
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Salmo
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Maybe 300-400gm Jigs are better for the sambo's
Try looking for smaller jigs
......
.....going to need a fridge trolley to carry my tackle bag around now
Not that Im any expert but I believe depth is very important when considering jig weight .....plus you need specialist gear to pump 400gm of metal....
Smaller jigs 40-120gms suitable for 10-50m other than SeaRocks and Daiwa Sacrifice butterfly leafs are hard to find.....but they are out there
the more people ask the more chance of tackle shops ordering in the smaller sizes....
Kc you are responsible for me burning a big hole in my wallet lately
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Article Nov 07 edition
Just bought myself some more gear so I might have to give the jigging another go (but in small doses as I am getting old and get tired too easily).
Cheers
Cheers
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SPESS
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Yeah second that read! Top
Yeah second that read! Top fish Kasey and top photo Andy. Congrats too both of ya.
Keep it tight, reeeeeeel tight!
Brian
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thats one hell of a fish
congrates, i've only seen fish like that, must be awsome to catch....
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You beauty
That's a classic.
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hi,thanks guys. yeah nice
hi,
thanks guys. yeah nice shot for the cover, wonder who the photographer was? hehe
about the dropzone.. hmm certainly something to try again ;)
cheers again andy!
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C'mon Kasey, post a few more pics
Cheers
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deefa
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We're all waiting here
We're all waiting here Kasey- pull ya fricking finger out man!!!
Kasey L.
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sure thing guys, theyre up.
sure thing guys, theyre up. havent actually been able to get a copy of the mag yet myself.
any and all constructive comments welcome. i'm not very good or anything, but sometimes its just fod a bit of good fun y'know ;)
Goatch
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That's life mate.....
Does a one legged duck swim in an eliptic circle
Just one more cast , honest !!!