Till gave me some spec's to work to and i did these as a sample for him. Not sure what to do yet , getting a hold of the lead in quantity is the main problem. ( i used up my last supply on these )
Might be able to work out a deal with some of the crew, if you can get the lead to me , I could make them in exchange for a portion of the lead.
Also if anyone knows a good source for lead i would be thankfull for the info.
roof plumbers that specialise in tiled roofs would be a start. They use a heap of lead to flash the top of the tiles (eg, where the tiles meet the walls)
I'm a roof plumber myself though I rarely do tiled roofs - we mainly do colorbond. If I do and there are some rolls of lead left over i'll put some aside...
Not wrong mate, lead is very expensive. I can get the wheel weights but they are a pain with the metal clip inside them and it would take about 300 of them to make a 6lb sinker lol.
One thing that keeps poping up with scrap lead is old yacht keel's, might have to investigate that option a bit further.
Yep they look the goods Grant, have you been able to test them out yet? That shape looks like it wouldn't cartwheel but you never now until its dropped I suppose
Thanks Lamby, havn't tested them yet. Going to get till ( jamie ) to give them a trial , then make adjustments if required. The longer 6 lb weight might cartwheel due to the length, might have to come up with a way to make them more of a teardrop shape, so most of the weight is at the bottom.
Will give them a trial first they might be ok. fingers crossed.
In my last job l had access to various sizes of round bar. l made up plenty of sinkers using 30mm round bar. Once cut, l put them in the lathe and machined them down, then drilled a hole through the top. l also could get them galvensized through the company l worked. l ended up with various sizes from 20 oz through to 36oz.
Now l know you guys are looking for big sinkers in pounds but you only have to up the size of the round bar to 50mm + and you could make some big sinkers.
Getting them galved doesnt have to be done but if they where l reckon it would still work out cheaper than buying lead.
most engineering shops would have scrap bins full of round offcuts they would sell you for some cash. you just need access to a lathe and your in business.
The shape l made was the same as the ones pictured at the top of the tread.
unfortunatly l dont work for that company any more but if you want the name and address Pm me , l know for a fact they would have a bin full of offcuts.
I can get lots of car batteries but dealing with them is a problem and needs to be done properly ( the DEP would shut me down if done wrong )
Have got some nice round bar ( off cuts ) from 25mm to 60mm and is a very viable option worth looking into.
Didn,t think of them rolling around alfred, i could do a few shapes, mabe a triangle shape would work and not spin too much on the way down.
Once we trial these ones we will know the problems and make adjustments. The reason i have gone the round shape ( besides easy to make ) was to try and eliminate as much spinning of the weight as posible on the way down 100s of metres. A good roller swivel will help too.
will i cast my own lead sinkers after making a large batch with old wheel weights,never been so sick in my life and took about 2 weeks to come good.But have accumilated about 20kg+ of good clean ingot and sheet lead you can have if youd like it
Certainly snapper sinkers are a good idea in that they're flat on a few sides. The issue is machining a suitable mould. I don't have access to a cnc cutter or the like.
On Tony's boat we keep all the lead in a tool tray to avoid it rolling around.
We had a 4kn drift, so were were busy calculating how far ahead of the mark we had to drop in order to make it down by the time we got to the fish! Even with Grant's 6lb one it took about 3min to make it down.
The 4lb one is down there still, somewhere but the rest of them did the job. The 6lb dropped a little faster than Tony's fatter style of same, without the pointy nose too.
Certainly I'd be doing some trades with Grant if you were planning on heading deep ;)
MattMiller
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Nice work
they definatly look the goods mate. I'm sure if you knocked a few up you wouldn't have any trouble of selling them
harro
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keen
yeah i,ll be keen,
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STEVE231
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I think these will be a
I think these will be a winner for the deep deep boys, are they going into production Grant??
grantarctic1
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Not sure
Till gave me some spec's to work to and i did these as a sample for him. Not sure what to do yet , getting a hold of the lead in quantity is the main problem. ( i used up my last supply on these )
Might be able to work out a deal with some of the crew, if you can get the lead to me , I could make them in exchange for a portion of the lead.
Also if anyone knows a good source for lead i would be thankfull for the info.
Cheers Grant.
wayneleech
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roof plumbers that specialise
roof plumbers that specialise in tiled roofs would be a start. They use a heap of lead to flash the top of the tiles (eg, where the tiles meet the walls)
I'm a roof plumber myself though I rarely do tiled roofs - we mainly do colorbond. If I do and there are some rolls of lead left over i'll put some aside...
grantarctic1
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Thanks
Thanks wayne, that's the stuff i like, it's nice and clean. As i said we could work out an exchange of sorts.
till
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Phwoar, they look awesome!
Phwoar, they look awesome!
Nice work Grant!
glastronomic
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Tyre places who still take
Tyre places who still take off the old lead balancing weights.
They are more and more replaced with steel sadly.
Lead is expensive and VERY dangerous to smelt without the right gear.
Lead poisening is not fun!
grantarctic1
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Not wrong
Not wrong mate, lead is very expensive. I can get the wheel weights but they are a pain with the metal clip inside them and it would take about 300 of them to make a 6lb sinker lol.
One thing that keeps poping up with scrap lead is old yacht keel's, might have to investigate that option a bit further.
scotto
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or,
take up diving.
i always find old sinkers when scratching around for crays!
adam87
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nice job they look great!
nice job they look great!
Lamby
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Yep they look the goods
Yep they look the goods Grant, have you been able to test them out yet? That shape looks like it wouldn't cartwheel but you never now until its dropped I suppose
grantarctic1
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Not tested
Thanks Lamby, havn't tested them yet. Going to get till ( jamie ) to give them a trial , then make adjustments if required. The longer 6 lb weight might cartwheel due to the length, might have to come up with a way to make them more of a teardrop shape, so most of the weight is at the bottom.
Will give them a trial first they might be ok. fingers crossed.
Lamby
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Good luck, look forward to
Good luck, look forward to the report Jamie as they look the goods
till
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I'll try and catch Grant up
I'll try and catch Grant up in the next couple of days.
Cartwheeling... I wonder if its really a problem?
They're never going to be cast in air, where cartwheeling IS a big problem.
Given the drag thats going to be induced by the baits you're dropping and the line itself.
grantarctic1
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Good point
Good point, with the drag of the baits i dont think there will be a problem.
deviouskim
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Tried old car batteries? sure
Tried old car batteries? sure you would have to deal with the acid but they have lead in them right?
ps I have three car batteries here if you want to try?
holth
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In my last job l had access
In my last job l had access to various sizes of round bar. l made up plenty of sinkers using 30mm round bar. Once cut, l put them in the lathe and machined them down, then drilled a hole through the top. l also could get them galvensized through the company l worked. l ended up with various sizes from 20 oz through to 36oz.
Now l know you guys are looking for big sinkers in pounds but you only have to up the size of the round bar to 50mm + and you could make some big sinkers.
Getting them galved doesnt have to be done but if they where l reckon it would still work out cheaper than buying lead.
most engineering shops would have scrap bins full of round offcuts they would sell you for some cash. you just need access to a lathe and your in business.
The shape l made was the same as the ones pictured at the top of the tread.
unfortunatly l dont work for that company any more but if you want the name and address Pm me , l know for a fact they would have a bin full of offcuts.
Paul
fisho-ron
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matei use 32mm reo bar, cut
mate
i use 32mm reo bar, cut to the rquired length for differant weights, weld a whasher on top and its done.
i get free reo bar so for me its cheap as chips and i dont mind losing a few.
ron
NOHA
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Round bar
Thats what I use. Just weld a 100mm of small link chain to one end to tie the line too and its a winner..
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alfred
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Very nice - a round mould is
Very nice - a round mould is the easiest to make, but on a boat it's a pain as the weight rolls. One flat side would be great!
grantarctic1
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Thanks guys
Thanks guy's i appreciate all input and advice.
I can get lots of car batteries but dealing with them is a problem and needs to be done properly ( the DEP would shut me down if done wrong )
Have got some nice round bar ( off cuts ) from 25mm to 60mm and is a very viable option worth looking into.
Didn,t think of them rolling around alfred, i could do a few shapes, mabe a triangle shape would work and not spin too much on the way down.
Once we trial these ones we will know the problems and make adjustments. The reason i have gone the round shape ( besides easy to make ) was to try and eliminate as much spinning of the weight as posible on the way down 100s of metres. A good roller swivel will help too.
bulla
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i vowed never
will i cast my own lead sinkers after making a large batch with old wheel weights,never been so sick in my life and took about 2 weeks to come good.But have accumilated about 20kg+ of good clean ingot and sheet lead you can have if youd like it
Stop complaining and get on with it !!
grantarctic1
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PM sent
Cheers
till
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Certainly snapper sinkers are
Certainly snapper sinkers are a good idea in that they're flat on a few sides. The issue is machining a suitable mould. I don't have access to a cnc cutter or the like.
On Tony's boat we keep all the lead in a tool tray to avoid it rolling around.
wangler
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till
3lb canon ball moulds will be on the way in a month
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till
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Nice!
Nice!
till
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Current was bonkers out there
Current was bonkers out there yesterday!
We had a 4kn drift, so were were busy calculating how far ahead of the mark we had to drop in order to make it down by the time we got to the fish! Even with Grant's 6lb one it took about 3min to make it down.
The 4lb one is down there still, somewhere but the rest of them did the job. The 6lb dropped a little faster than Tony's fatter style of same, without the pointy nose too.
Certainly I'd be doing some trades with Grant if you were planning on heading deep ;)
grantarctic1
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Good to hear
Good to hear they were ok . Any fish till ?
Now all i need is a couple ton of lead LOL .
Thanks to bulla for dropping of 25kg of lead to me . Cheers .
till
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A few cod, a few silly
A few cod, a few silly nannies. Might try for some pics up later!
jeremy-j
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Hey grant my old boy had a
Hey grant my old boy had a heap of sheet lead last time i was at his house,
I dint have a need to deep sea anchors but if theres any left next time i there ill gab it for you.
grantarctic1
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Thanks
Thanks jeremy, I make other sinker's too, we could arange a swap that will suit your needs ,
Cheers Grant
harro
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i,ll test em
yeah mate i,ll test em out down south , lol,
they look the goods ,
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grantarctic1
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PM Sent
Cheers Grant.
joe amato
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lead sheets
you can get lead at 2.50 kg at ingot metals frobisher st ossie park
grantarctic1
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Thanks joe
Thanks, I'll look into that, it sounds quite reasonable.
I have tried to find a supplier in perth and came up with zip. Thanks again for the info.
joe amato
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if you want to help myself make some deepsea sinkers
i have some 20kg lead i wouldnt mind converting into sinkers,and we could do a deal grantartic