.... and the result. My PB Bludger. Despite their poor eating qualities I never get tired of catching big trevors, one of the hardest fighting fish IMO.
Yeah thanks Kasey, didn't realise until looking at the pic afterwards that I probably shouldn't have held it like that :S Still swam away strong, hope all is well eh. I definately won't be having fingers in gills with future fish I plan to release.
Don't worry Jay, Kasey's picked me up on my fingers in gills for released fish too. Just have to try and remove it as one of the bad fish handling habits, just so easy to forget sometime when theyre being bastards to pick up or hold.
Yeah.. I'm a bit of a critic about that, no apologies =P
A good analogy is sticking your bait and slime covered hands down your throat and touching your alveoli in your lungs... not very pleasant, and should lead to some nice infections =)
Nice fish, and bet it pulled hard, but I reckon that's a Goldy, not a bludger. Not taking away from the capture, just throwing in my 2cents (I'll post up a couple of comparisons).
gotta agree with scuttlebut on that one .pretty sure if it was a blugger you wouldnt be holding it on the tail flutes area as there similar to the GTs.and ya hand would be coping a few nicks and cuts.his mouth also looks nice and soft.where as bluggers have a hard mouth with little teeth.JMO.still a nice catch though.jay there colour does vary qyie a bit .but once dead the gold comes out a lot more.reckon its a gold spot trev
always in it just the depth that varies
I've caught plenty of goldies before and it definately doesn't look like a goldie since it lacks the gold colours they are renowned for... unless they lose them with age?
You're correct scuttlebut, my fish ID book does describe the Bludger as having an elongate body and looks more like the one you posted. Still doesn't explain what mine is... if it is a golden it's pretty pale.
Andy, the ones you just posted look just like goldens. I've caught several Gold-Spotted Trevally round Coral Bay and they are quite silver with several gold spots on the upper half of the body.
Yeah I'll say Goldens for the two from Andy, and yes, they do become quite pale as they get bigger. Also Jay, if you compare the pic of yours to mine you'll see the same faint vertical bars. Another ID point is they often have one or two black spots on the flanks. There's a good photo of a big one in Ern Grant's book too.
Thanks for everyones help identifying the fish. After reading everyones input, comparing it with scuttlebutts goldie, and comparing it with my fish ID book I am reasonably convinced it is in fact a 'Golden' Trevally.
I can see now the verticle bars and black spot are a dead give away.
you said its like sticking slimy bait down our own throat.Isnt that the slimy bait that the fish willingly ate anyway wich resulted in the capture of the fish in the first place.
no, i said 'bait and slime covered hands', and if you want to get more technical, the passage that food goes down to the stomach and the passage that air goes down to your lungs is different.
dont bother about the details, think about the message
No need to get technical.. S'all good. Atleast the species got sorted out. The message is very important, but its key to help educate without being too critical, not that you have Kasey, but it seems that its a very fine line with some people when it comes to helping them with their handling techniques before release. Thats not you either Jay, just from my experience of reading many forums about the matter.
Just saying that it is important that we learn to handle fish better. Not just yourself, but me and others as well. I think thats the messages KC was trying to get across and I was trying to reinforce it without things getting blown out of proportion.
Sorry cheif just stirring you up dont take it personaly. I have my own opinion on fish handling techniques. Not saying yours is wrong though. Then again havnt caught enough fish lately to work on my techniqe anyway.
thats alright, mav seems to stir me all the time. =P
I have to take it all in though, otherwise he will steal my jigs and tip them over when I am not looking. (DON'T!)
no way i have less fish than jay. sometimes my blowie-catching techniques gets my fishcount up in the hundreds in a single day =D
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neither do i! I want
neither do i!
I want GT!
sorry, couldn't resist... catch and release + hands in gills! = not a good combination...
just building awareness, good bludger.
DORO
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Nice fish, would of had fun
Nice fish, would of had fun catching it.
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Yeah thanks Kasey, didn't
Yeah thanks Kasey, didn't realise until looking at the pic afterwards that I probably shouldn't have held it like that :S Still swam away strong, hope all is well eh. I definately won't be having fingers in gills with future fish I plan to release.
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Fingers
Don't worry Jay, Kasey's picked me up on my fingers in gills for released fish too. Just have to try and remove it as one of the bad fish handling habits, just so easy to forget sometime when theyre being bastards to pick up or hold.
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Yeah.. I'm a bit of a critic
Yeah.. I'm a bit of a critic about that, no apologies =P
A good analogy is sticking your bait and slime covered hands down your throat and touching your alveoli in your lungs... not very pleasant, and should lead to some nice infections =)
scuttlebutt
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Nice fish, and bet it pulled
Nice fish, and bet it pulled hard, but I reckon that's a Goldy, not a bludger. Not taking away from the capture, just throwing in my 2cents (I'll post up a couple of comparisons).
cheers,
steve
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mitch
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AGREE
gotta agree with scuttlebut on that one .pretty sure if it was a blugger you wouldnt be holding it on the tail flutes area as there similar to the GTs.and ya hand would be coping a few nicks and cuts.his mouth also looks nice and soft.where as bluggers have a hard mouth with little teeth.JMO.still a nice catch though.jay there colour does vary qyie a bit .but once dead the gold comes out a lot more.reckon its a gold spot trev
always in it just the depth that varies
jay_burgess
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I've caught plenty of
I've caught plenty of goldies before and it definately doesn't look like a goldie since it lacks the gold colours they are renowned for... unless they lose them with age?
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Correction
You're correct scuttlebut, my fish ID book does describe the Bludger as having an elongate body and looks more like the one you posted. Still doesn't explain what mine is... if it is a golden it's pretty pale.
jay_burgess
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Mitch, the bludger
Mitch, the bludger scuttlebut posted doesn't have sharp tail flutes and the one in my book doesn't appear to have sharp flutes either?
mitch
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brarsy
must of been thinking of the brarsie trev with the flutes.oops
always in it just the depth that varies
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Goldspot gets my vote
Jay, here are several we caught near Peak Island.
[img_assist|fid=26602|thumb=1|alt=Big Trev|caption=First drop double hook up near Peak Island]
[img_assist|fid=26619|thumb=1|alt=Rory's Trev]
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jay_burgess
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Andy, the ones you just
Andy, the ones you just posted look just like goldens. I've caught several Gold-Spotted Trevally round Coral Bay and they are quite silver with several gold spots on the upper half of the body.
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Yeah I'll say Goldens for
Yeah I'll say Goldens for the two from Andy, and yes, they do become quite pale as they get bigger. Also Jay, if you compare the pic of yours to mine you'll see the same faint vertical bars. Another ID point is they often have one or two black spots on the flanks. There's a good photo of a big one in Ern Grant's book too.
cheers,
steve
From Cairns GBR
jay_burgess
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Thanks for everyones help
Thanks for everyones help identifying the fish. After reading everyones input, comparing it with scuttlebutts goldie, and comparing it with my fish ID book I am reasonably convinced it is in fact a 'Golden' Trevally.
I can see now the verticle bars and black spot are a dead give away.
TAPOUT
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Kaseys analogy
you said its like sticking slimy bait down our own throat.Isnt that the slimy bait that the fish willingly ate anyway wich resulted in the capture of the fish in the first place.
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no, i said 'bait and slime
no, i said 'bait and slime covered hands', and if you want to get more technical, the passage that food goes down to the stomach and the passage that air goes down to your lungs is different.
dont bother about the details, think about the message
Adam Gallash
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S'all Good
No need to get technical.. S'all good. Atleast the species got sorted out. The message is very important, but its key to help educate without being too critical, not that you have Kasey, but it seems that its a very fine line with some people when it comes to helping them with their handling techniques before release. Thats not you either Jay, just from my experience of reading many forums about the matter.
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Not quite sure what you're
Not quite sure what you're implying there Adam??
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Implying
Just saying that it is important that we learn to handle fish better. Not just yourself, but me and others as well. I think thats the messages KC was trying to get across and I was trying to reinforce it without things getting blown out of proportion.
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Oh yeah I see what you mean
Oh yeah I see what you mean now ;)
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Nothing against you Jay, I
Nothing against you Jay, I have my own fish handling problems too =)
http://fishwrecked.com/node/2570
In my opinion your a better angler than me anyway, and I'm just jealous =D
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Don't worry Kasey I surely
Don't worry Kasey I surely didn't take any offense to what you said and I accepted it as constructive criticism ;)
BTW, don't be so modest, I'm sure you've got a few years on me!
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HA HA
He may have a few years but less fish than you Jay , HA HA HA
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Kaseys analogy
Sorry cheif just stirring you up dont take it personaly. I have my own opinion on fish handling techniques. Not saying yours is wrong though. Then again havnt caught enough fish lately to work on my techniqe anyway.
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thats alright, mav seems to
thats alright, mav seems to stir me all the time. =P
I have to take it all in though, otherwise he will steal my jigs and tip them over when I am not looking. (DON'T!)
no way i have less fish than jay. sometimes my blowie-catching techniques gets my fishcount up in the hundreds in a single day =D
p.s. im only 20 =( =( not thaat many years...
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I'm 17... What are you
I'm 17... What are you getting me for my 18th eh? :p
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what are you getting me for
what are you getting me for my 21st? =D
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