Trolling Rigs

 

Gday people

was in town the other day picking up some supplies at the local tackle shop , I was chasing some swivels and snaps for some trolling riggs as well as chasing some bits and peices to make up some teasers. Anyway got talking to the bloke behind the counter and the topic got going on trolling rigs and the like. Now Ive never strayed to far from the conventional set up mainly, lure / bait to crimped mono leader ,of around 1 to 2 meters attched via snap swivel and a wind on leader, I mainly fish around 10 to 15kg while trolling occassionally go to 24kg leaders would hardly get behond 200lb with the mainstay 100 to 120lb in short fairly light.

The bloke behind the counter mentioned a couple of things in conversation that interested me and was a little outside my way of thinking, first was he used teaser birds on his trolling rigs ie actual in line with the bait lure you are trolling he ran them between the wind on and leader, anyone out there ever do that at all? Be interested to here anything about it, Ive allways used them in daisy chains/teaser set ups.

The second thing we were talking about  was the speed of trolling by way of eliminating by catch ( in short stopping mackies from wrecking lures baits ) for sails I would troll depending on the day 3 to  7knots but as a result would have a few dramas with mackies, the advice was to pick the troll up to around 10 or 12knts this would elimnate by catch but still be good for the more exotic species tuna, doly, marlin, sails, and wahoo any thoughts out there?

 

few links here from the black bart guys chasing wahoo in the Carribean old vids and probably seen before but I found them interesting in the use of extremly heavy gear, wire and lead weights in trolling. trolling speed at a guess would be 10 to 15 nts  hope the lins work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wPgNvi0FOM    Part one rigs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5CypwSueKs&feature=related    part two fishing 

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Cheers

Greg


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not too sure about all your

Thu, 2011-03-24 15:22

not too sure about all your questions, but when I'm trolling in mack waters, I always run about a foot of wire trace - still lose some lures, but it helps a lot.  I also find that shiny snap swivels get bitten off more than black/dull ones.

 

As for trolling speed - I've had just as many macks caught at 10-12 knts as at slower speeds - and anyway Spaniards can swim at 30 knots.

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Actually just remembered an

Thu, 2011-03-24 15:01

Actually just remembered an incident - we tried putting a teaser (squid) inline, and hooked a mack on the lure, but another one followed in and bit the teaser, biting through the line - so I lost the teaser, the lure and a damn good mack...  I guess it's like the swivels in my previous post.  When the macks are biting, they bite at anything that moves, shines, shimmers, so anything extra will get their attention.  That's why many of the pro mack guys just run super heavy gear direct to a simple (and cheap) lure.

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The use of inline birds

Thu, 2011-03-24 15:14

is considered by many (including Peter Pakula) as a means of increasing the strike rate when trolling for marlin.  The use of inline birds may not be legal in some competitions.

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