spiral wrapped baitcasters
Submitted by HuggyB on Thu, 2008-12-11 12:33
Anyone got one?
Are they inherently any better than a standard baitcaster?
Can anyone give a comparison or pros and cons to a spiral wrapped baitcaster?
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schecky
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what are these? sorry for
what are these?
i sound dumb but what are they haha
schecky
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oh i know now i googled
oh i know now i googled it
on a post on another forum it seemed like the members on that forum were extremely fond of them
Tony Halliday
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spiral wrap
one of my mates has a Shimano spiral wrap jigging rod and swears by it. They look like bait casyers, but actualy are jigging rods. I don't know the casting effects of a spiral wrap.
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hlokk
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Basically the wrapping
Basically the wrapping reduces torsion at the end of the rod. Because on a baitcaster the guides are above the rod, when the line pulls down, if they are off center they can twist the rod, which isnt a good thing to have happening. By spiral wrapping the guides at the tip are underneath reducing the twisting stress (dont need to be quite as careful avoiding twisting when fighting the fish). The guides lower down dont cause much twisting. You can run less guides and smaller guides (e.g. single foot) in such a setup and dont need as much binding or epoxy which can result in a lower weight/better balanced rod. The line doesnt tend to touch the rod like it can in some baitcasters in a heavy bend. Casting is supposed to be the same, so I wouldnt worry about that
I was going to get a starlo stix tournament pro but they didnt make one for the line classs I wanted to run.
The rods arent as common, but its more due to perception for marketing, not whether its better or not.
http://www.westcoastangler.com/articles/spiral_wrapped_rods.php
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewcustomrod.html
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i hae used the starlo stik
i hae used the starlo stik spiral wrap baitcasters and from my experience with them i wouldnt buy one myself. just not my cup of tea, i would still prefer the conventional style ones. when it cast i felt like it just lacked distance which i felt was due to more friction from the giudes, but that is just my opinion.
some people love them, but they are not for me, they just dont feel right IMO.
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maybe my dodgy casting
maybe my dodgy casting ability with a baitcaster was partly to blame for the lack of distance hahahaha. lol.
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Well, I wasnt going to say
Well, I wasnt going to say anything..... (hehe)
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HuggyB
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Hmmmmm....
plenty of people praise it, equally as many don't.
May as well take the plunge and guage it for myself I guess. And for the record, I am a lousy baitcaster as well. But I gotta learn!
I need to be a fluent caster for Exmouth as I am not going to take a spin outfit to save on the number of rods/outfits I'm taking. well thats the plan at this stage...
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Simon C
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If I can give you some
If I can give you some advice as a pretty proficient baitcast user I would not take one to Exmouth unless you are fishing the creeks, and unless you have a very good boat you will not be doing that, or you will have a tinny and a 4wd that you don't like and will launch at the bottom of the gulf. IF you are just going off the marina or Tanta's buy a good light spin outfit.
Baitcasters are great for when accurate short distance casting is needed, but at exmouth you don't need that anywhere except in the creeks, which you can only fish on about 6 tides a month anyway.
Much more versatile to have a 4000 size spin rod/reel that is sweet for Tuna, small trevs, queenies and shallow water trout casting small/medium poppers and metals. YOu can be just as accurate with some practice if you do want to fish around some rocks as well.
Just my thoughts, and I have 4 REALLY nice baitcast combos in the garage from my days in North Queensland, that have been gathering dust since moving to Perth.
I used a Branzino and Cielo rod last trip and had a blast chucking small roostas and dumbells around the bottom of the gulf. Ran 15lb tuffline and 50lb leader and it was great fun. Lost a few fish, but landed heaps and i could cast that a lot further to fish that I spotted in the shallows than any baitcaster I own.
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If a rod was built properly
If a rod was built properly on the back bone then the rod would not twist under load. As regards to the pressure on the end guides, they normaly straighten out under heavy load so the pressure is on the middle guides which are of center. This would cause twisting IMO, Just buy a good quality rod and check the backbone in the shop before you buy. One more thing is the line will bunch up on one side of the spool, you will find yourself laying line more than normal.
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The spine wont help much for
The spine wont help much for torsional rotation. It will really only affect bending (to different degrees depending on the blank).
Good point about the line, I wonder if the guides are setup to counteract that or not? Havent come across that being mentioned before. It shouldnt make a difference to a rod with no levelwind, but then most small baitcasters have a levelwind.
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