Nutcase in Melbourne
Submitted by timboon on Fri, 2017-01-20 16:40
Why oh why didnt someone just take this fuckwit out....
Tee boned him while he was hanging out the window!!
Surely they couldnt throw the book at you properly for taking such a person out in an act of citizen arrest albeit a bit blues brothers....
Old mate running in with the baseball bat was keen but at least he had a crack not like all the other knobs driving past and around him....
Old mate in the black merc should have the money to replace the car, fuck surely crowd funding woulda chimed in and bought him a newy for his public service....
I was dreaming of the 07 lux in all its glory shunting him all the way to heaven...
Amen....
sea-kem
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Just maimed and in extreme
Just maimed and in extreme pain is all that piece of garbage deserves Boony. Same as the tool that cleaned up that poor rubbish truck driver the other day. They should be made to confront the victims relatives one by one to explain themselves.
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Krusty
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For sure, make the pricks
For sure, make the pricks face what they have done
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petermac
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dont get me started
nah fuck that just let the relys spit in his face and then give him a slow execution
dodgy
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What am I missing? Right up
What am I missing? Right up until he drove into the crowd he was just a hoon in a commodore doing donuts...... Hindsight is wonderful and I bet all those that saw him in action before never dreamed that would be the end result.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
rob90
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Soo true, not in anyones
Soo true, not in anyones wildest dreams would it have been thought about. Its moments like these i feel we need the death penalty. Im guessing he'll walk into court his lawer will say he was not of sound mind (off his chops due to smashing the glass barbie too hard) he'll get 25 - 30 years be out in 20 and see out the rest of his days sippin beers fed by government pay outs, the fact that he is still breathing is an insult to the four lives his taken one of which didnt even get the chance to experience life.
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Lance55
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Why?
Why is t that every time some dickweek nutcase goes off and creates mayhem we hear the same story? This guy " Was well known to the Police"
The Lindt cafe whacker " Was well known t the police"
Martin Bryant.....well known to the police.
and on and on and on.
If these mongrels are people of interest, or " concern" or whatever....why does it take a tragedy like this for something to get done??
I would love to see the punishment fit the crime, but this guy will get off lightly as he was off his nut, had a hard childhood, or didn't get what he wanted for Christmas in 1997.
Jackfrost80
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I wonder how many of those
I wonder how many of those UPF nutcases prematurely blew their load and started going nuts on Facebook before they realised it was just one of their fellow nutcases?
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
timboon
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Dodge that was no hoon that
Dodge that was no hoon that was a smacked out loose oxygen theif that needed shunting with the 07 lux....
You cant say you wouldnt have given him a little love tap had you had the chance?
dodgy
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For sure. But when he was
For sure. But when he was doing donuts in the intersection there wasn't too much to suggest anything different.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Stoinka
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Wife and kids
were there at the time, bloody scarey for them. Cops should have blown him away.
Very lucky for us and not so lucky for others. Condolences and blessing to those lost
timboon
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Holy shit Stoink!! Glad to
Holy shit Stoink!!
Glad to hear your fam is all ok...
I might think differently to most but i woulda ruined his day in a heart beat had i been there in a car...
I feel like bullbar educating everytime i'm on the freeway with the dickheads lane swapping 30 times and tail gating to try and get "there" quicker let alone this nutjob...
Very disappointed to hear he only recieved a shot in the arm, unusual for vicco cops its usually half the mag of the glock 9mm to the chest...
timboon
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They reckon Nat fyfe, Alan
They reckon Nat fyfe, Alan Richarson and Nick Reiwold were also lucky to escape...
Aparently Luke hogde Shoulder charged the commode which was enough to throw it off course...
Fyfe said he feared for his man bun...
little johnny
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3 month old
Died now. Only thing that went wrong was where bullet hit. It's so wrong .
grantarctic1
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And
And he was out on bail from a previous assault charge.
Well know to the police, many charges of violence over the last few years, even on the anti terrorist watch list.
Once again the court system lets a piece of filth like this walk amongst every day citizens. Once again the seriousness of the crime escalates more and more as these drug fuelled people spiral out of control.
Dale
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Police made a mistake not shooting to kill. Would have saved a lot of money.
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sea-kem
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Yep it's the kind of thing
Yep it's the kind of thing everyone from the top down would happily turn a blind eye to.
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petermac
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why didnt they
vic coppers knew who they were dealng with why oh why didnt they just brass him up before he hurt people , big question of vic coppers resopse , and when they shot him why not shoot to kill ?
striker
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My condolences to all involved
And their families But two words
Death Penalty
Ashen
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Street
I know that street quite well...
If you can imagine a car going through the pedestrian only area of our Hay Street in the city, then you will realise the terror people would've felt when they saw that car coming at them!
A fish in the hand is worth 10 in the water!
meglodon
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Should have been terminated
To be blunt some one should have shot the bastard in the head. End of story.
timboon
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Yep exactly, its something
Yep exactly, its something like $1,600,000/yr to keep Bryant down in the Tassi Jail...
This money should be going to families that need it not some freak that should be rotting in the ground...
sea-kem
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Too sick to appear in court
Too sick to appear in court today, imo he should've been dragged in there in shackles and thrown on the floor. No mercy for this piece of shite.
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Dale
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"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
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dodgy
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Too sick? Might of fallen
Too sick? Might of fallen over a few times on his way to the holding cell....
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
fishcrazy
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cops and lunatics
Why is it that fully armed cops (not just this situation ) let these nutters run amok do what they please until this sorta shit happens . But if some teen male or female gets a bit pissed and gets outa control a bit u have multiple officers jump all over them and lock them up . But if the perp is a bit dangerous it dont happen for fucks sske how many innocent people get killed through lack of action or become collateral damage i think they need to get it together and jump on these bastards before all hell breaks loose. More action needs to be taken and if deadly force is necessary then do it .
little johnny
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Coppa didn't want
Him to get bail . They contested it. They do there job system doesn't support them sometimes.
Rob H
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I'd guess there would be a
I'd guess there would be a little "soul searching" going on amongst the police involved as it seemed as though when he drove off from the intersection there was 4 or 5 cop cars sedately following for a Sunday drive.
Fully understand that they may not have had an inkling of what was going to happen but still...
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
timboon
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Yep exactly Rob, The coppas
Yep exactly Rob,
The coppas would be feeling like shit now but seriously how can they sit back ( anybody for that matter ) and allow it to unfold and let him dictate...
He's already stabbed his own brother earlier, surely when he is behaving like he was you have to start to think the worst case scenario and erraticate the pest...
They should have RPG'd him from close range...
And to be fair on the responsible gun owners who seem to continually be in the spotlight anytime a dickhead goes mad I think its time to ban cars...
I've been saying this in our ( responsible gun owners ) defense anytime i get in an arguement with some fucking clown, that guns dont kill people, people kill people...
I think at the very least now all red commodores need to be now locked in a car safe, you need a friend with a 2km road to write you a letter stating you are allowed to drive on said road, you have to now lock your petrol in a seperate car safe than the one your red commode is locked in and you have to wait at least 28 days before your new red commode arrives from the dealer...
Kitchen knives - Knife safe!!
Axe - Axe safe
Hammer - Hammer safe
World safe?
Gav475
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crucified
If the coppas had of fired their gats at this muppet and missed hitting old mate his wife or child in the back ground they would have been crucified. No one would have said good on you for trying. Hitting anything with a glock is just about impossible, let alone a moving target. Dont blame the cops, blame the drug dealers supplying all of these crack heads and the judicial system that keeps letting them out. They will put this fool in protective custody instead of general jail population where he would be sorted within minutes. To many bleeding hearts and tree huggers getting their way
sea-kem
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Yep this exact subject has
Yep this exact subject has come up before, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. No one could have foreseen what this loony was about to do. And when the bail and incarceration laws are strengthened then the left will start whinging that it's a police state. No easy answers.
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Rob H
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I didn't suggest shooting
I didn't suggest shooting him, it seemed a little comical though when he slowly left the intersection and 4 or 5 cop cars fall in line astern at what appeared about 20kph.
The yanks of course may have just blasted him, however they also seem to more readily use their vehicles with bull bars which would have appeared to be a fairly simple move.
Did the cops on the spot not know what he had done earlier?
In which case it'd seem like a breakdown in communication.
Fully understand as a lifelong hunter/shooter, the extreme hazard of discharging a firearm in that area especially with the limited training/exposure many police have unfortunately.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
petermac
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load of crap
having been a soldier and know fire ams preety good , they could have pulled up next to him and shot him with a 12 gauge street sweeper , but they didnt fucking hopless response from the police realy usless pricks followed him for hours , uhmm dont think the sasr are scared when in contact with the enermy , whats happened to our coppers have they lost their balls
dodgy
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Think it would of been
Think it would of been pretty dramatic to see cops poke a 12ga through the window and give him a solid to the chest.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Willlo
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If old mate could get close
If old mate could get close enough with his bat to give the car a wack why couldn't one of the coppers get close enough to plug the fucker? The whole situation sux . I blame our weak as piss judges and legal system and the bleeding hearts that got us here . Bring back capital punishment.
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petermac
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exactly
old mate should get a medal for having a go
OOH YEH
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Glock 9mI still think that
this gat is used as a self defence gun for the police ... I work in Indonesia and see Lot of army personnel line the streets with there rep Ak 47s to keep the so called gilas ( dickheads ) of the streets
be interesting to see if we adopted the same force on our streets would we end up with the carnage we have just witnessed ?????
hezzy
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i dont blame the cops ,
i dont blame the cops ,
there farked whatever they do in any situation like this ......and any option they take is media /public criticised no matter what it is
what if they had rammed him in the intersection ?? media would say it was over the top , and caused public fear etc .
what if they had shot him in the intersection ?? much bigger outpouring of criticism again
thing is the whole system of how to deal with these pieces of shite is weak and too much emotional manipulation is done by a % of our society who still cling to the idea these people are worth saving or that they even can be saved
imo they cant , those who are violent need stronger detterents early on ,
there is a whole industry , studies and other associated peoples who drive the argument they have rights ...curently these people and theri business is wining , think asylum seekers and any other minority group who constantly blame others for their situation ..... our community has rights and it should overide the rights of these offenders .
the police now are stuck in a half zone . no matter what they do they will get scorned and hammered , now there policy seems to be written by the top people to minimise outside criticism
even their name reflects that .now there a service , not a ''force ''
this bastard should be exterminated , who in there right mind thinks he can in any way be rehabilitated and at some time in the future let loose ?? all we will do is pay to keep him locked up , out of mind out of sight .... nah capitol punishment all the way imo & id also bring back corporal punishemtn into schools as well
anyone else find it interesting his religion or background has largely been hard to find out about ?? & low key in the ,media ??
hezzy
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OOH YEH
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A 26 year old thinks he is above the law !!
I'm Beside myself to see that a kid / young adult to do this type of act no matter race or creed .
This guy sould be stung up on the drag strip by the balls for all to See .... He is lucky to be alive ..... Eye foe a eye !!!!!
Mooseknuckle
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Need to have him sorted out
I will quite happily donate to a 'cause' that will have this guy sorted once he is inside.
Or even better let him go free and 'accidently' release his whereabouts to a public forum. Then have no squad cars available for a few hours and sent the shire crew with high pressure cleaners to clean-up what's left.
Had enough of these clowns and their lack of respect for anyone or anything. Respect is tied in with fear - make people scared of the consequences of their actions.
fishcrazy
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glocks
Dont even know why they have glocks much better peices out there sig for example no point havin a weapon u cant hit shit with and yes i can use one so trained police need to be able to
Gav475
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idiot proof
Police issue are 40 cal, not 9mm and all ammo is hollow point to prevent through and through. They have no external safety, 3 internals. They are cheap and easy to use. Most recruits have never held a firearm let alone fired one. Most police shootings are within 3 feet of the target, hence the max range when you requal with WAPOL is 8 meters and hard to get a good group at that range. Ex coppa so have used them alot. If you pull the trigger it goes bang, that simple.
meglodon
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Right on
Exactly how it is.
timboon
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Some good points made
Some good points made above...
Our country is as bad as anywhere for now trying to be politically correct in all facets...
Its all about the vote!!
This country would be better of being a communism instead of the fucking clowns we have running the show I reckon...
I'm also not of the opinion the cops should have used a weapon initially but i think Tee-Boning the shit out of him would have been commended by most...
Sure you are going to get a few do gooders that would stick up for him but oh well...
Jadeo
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********
Give all the victims families a crack at him!!!!!!
uncle
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Double
Double
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uncle
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Now its the cops fault
FfS.any blame on the druggie or judge that let him out on bail. Australia has gone tooo soft. Still the trumpster is not being blamed!!
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grantarctic1
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Don't konw
I Don't know if this is true or more misinformation but copied from FB today
Mark Nossab on the Melbourne "deliberate car crash" - words used by Police to water down the Islamic aspect of this ISIS inspired attack.
LANGUAGE WARNING.
"Comment from an ex cop over the bullshit we are being fed by the media and Victorian Government regarding the Bourke St massacre last week.
Me, as an Ex Victorian Police member, I still have contact with many current serving members. I like to put myself out there as there is life after the Job as a Cop, and indeed there is.
The Bourke Street massacre I wish to put out there some serious issues and questions current serving Victorian Police members have approached me to bypass Force Command. 1. This Prick, was under surveillance for some 7 days prior to Bourke St by experienced Police when he was Bailed by a Bail Justice, opposed by Vic Police.
Surveillance obtained was the intention of The Prick to "mow down as many cunts as I can". 2. The hostage/girlfriend whom escaped from The Pricks stolen vehicle on Bolte Bridge. All media announcements to this date have in fact stated that the female managed to escape the vehicle on Bolte Bridge. My information received from disgruntled current serving Victorian Police Members suggest a serious otherwise.
As this Prick was under serious surveillance, the Special Operations Group (SOG) intercepted the vehicle on Bolte Bridge with a primary to extract/release the female in which they did successfully, however prior instructions were 'no shots to be fired' once female was extracted/released let the Suspect go. And so the Prick speeds off and we all now know what happened.
3. How long will it be before Victorian Police or the State Government led by Premier Daniel Andrews actually admit the facts of the Bolte Bridge intercept and subsequent escape/sanctioned release by 'Powers of Above' that have led to such a Hideous tragedy for many many law abiding people.
Please pass, post, share my post, I am suffering within, was no where near Bourke Street on the day, and some 20 years after resigning from The Victorian Police Force the same shit is going on now 10 fold. /Mark.Nossab/posts/10154405151701234
timboon
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Ouch...
Ouch...
scuttlebutt
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Regarding "why didn't they
Regarding "why didn't they shoot to kill" -
Police training in use of firearms is to "stop the threat". Whether the subject is killed during this action is not a consideration. The Police role is to stop the threat and put the offender in front of the court.
With regards to why didn't they shoot him sooner etc.
I wasn't there and only saw what is on TV, but there were a lot of bystanders around in the vision I saw. They'd be trying to hit a moving target with a handgun and trying not to hit bystanders behind him. There is also no guarantee that hitting the offender is going to stop the vehicle which may continue on to harm further innocent bystanders. Would have been a risky call.
scuttlebutt
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Regarding "why didn't they
Regarding "why didn't they shoot to kill" -
Police training in use of firearms is to "stop the threat". Whether the subject is killed during this action is not a consideration. The Police role is to stop the threat and put the offender in front of the court.
With regards to why didn't they shoot him sooner etc.
I wasn't there and only saw what is on TV, but there were a lot of bystanders around in the vision I saw. They'd be trying to hit a moving target with a handgun and trying not to hit bystanders behind him. There is also no guarantee that hitting the offender is going to stop the vehicle which may continue on to harm further innocent bystanders. Would have been a risky call.