Fisheries Research Personnel possibly involved in Fishy Business ???

Seems like the Fisherys boys and gals use the research vessel to catch fish then use the fish for personal use (or even possiby on sell it) according to reports in todays West.

A whistle blower has alleged photos of a 400 kg shipment of fillets allegly sent to Hillarys from Broome,,worth $15,000- $20,000,,possibly the tip of the iceberg as well ,,,another headache for Mr Moore.

 

Check out the front page of Todays West.


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Stupid idiots

Sat, 2009-09-12 08:46

It will be interesting to hear their pathetic cock-an-bull lame-brain excuses on this matter. It is not real good when the "fish police" are the crims !!!!!!!! I hope everyone else is sticking to the rules. We have to conserve and manage our fragile fishery with great care according to Mr Moore. I wonder who authorized this little catch ???????? A little cash-up for some Government department, or has this been an ongoing little money spinner for the "fish police" over many years ???????? There are a lot of questions for Mr Moore and the fisheries department to answer over this story.

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Im prepared to wait and

Sat, 2009-09-12 09:06

Im prepared to wait and see.  Im a little skeptical of media reports which fail to tell the whole story on some occasions.  If they were research fish,  Id much rather they be consumed by the department than dumped.  More than likely they arent allowed to be onsold due to the health department regulations. If it has been abused, then it is a dam shame.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/6024979/fisheries-officers-linked-to-dodgy-catch/

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has any body seen the photos yet?

Sat, 2009-09-12 18:36

is there any evidence backing this claim? - i strongly doubt that the department of fisheries is selling confiscated fish to make money - sounds like chinese whispers to me.

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the day we start believing the media

Sat, 2009-09-12 09:18

especially the West, that this is an unbiased article, is the day the planet implodes........

journos are well regarded for the unbiased opinion and integrety. They all burned the honesty, integrety, justice and moral text book when they all danced the "FIGJAM" bonfire on there first day at uni....... (pity none of them fell in...)

If anyone made a mistake well then justrice will catch up....dont need to sensationalise it.

 

 

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I just got off the phone to

Sat, 2009-09-12 09:24

I just got off the phone to my mate in the Fisherys,,he is dropping off 50 kilos of prime Broome fillets at Northbridge at midnight,,,

 

Narr not really i made it up,,maybe i should get a job as a Journo at the West ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its really 45 kilos and is landing at Jandakot direct WinkCool

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Theres bad eggs in every

Sat, 2009-09-12 09:38

Theres bad eggs in every basket, cant expect no ones gonna do the wrong thing, just gotta know the majority are doing the righty...

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With the others

Sat, 2009-09-12 09:44

I'll wait until appropriate investigations, process and outcomes are determined.

 

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Its seems the guy says that

Sat, 2009-09-12 10:00

Its seems the guy says that Mr Moore has inardvently tipped them off to the investigation

(2nd last paragraphed in link provided)

 

And to protect myself legally that 45kgs at Jandakot is a joke, might i suggest you call them yourself for a current price list and availbilty Cool

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walt stark

Sat, 2009-09-12 10:36

this whistle blower as its put walter stark is a well respected and awesome wealth of info and always has been if it wasnt for ppl like walt stark ,ben and eva cropp , the taylors , the cousteaus i might have not been into diving marine biology of fishing i was reading his literature when i was 11 years old good one walt stick it to them

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So you would be aware that

Sat, 2009-09-12 13:28

Walter thinks we evolved from dolphins and that we have links to mars.Laughing

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I have not heard of him

Sat, 2009-09-12 11:11

I have not heard of him today,,he is an interesting fellow,,heres a link to some of his work.

Check out page 3,,this is the guy we need in our corner.

 http://www.bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=133:australian-fisheries-management-worlds-best-or-worst&catid=99:walter-starcks-blog&Itemid=123

 

 

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I honestly hope its not true

Sat, 2009-09-12 11:39

in the wake of these new rules and regulations coming in, I'm like dreamweaver wait and see before I comment any further.

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It Happens

Sat, 2009-09-12 12:07

As someone who did work on the fisheries patrol vessels, a few years ago for a short stint, we used to fish all the time.We fished all up and down the coast sometimes an 1hr to 2hr a day sometimes more. A certain trip to Jurien we trolled on the way up, caught dolphin fish then spent a whole day bottom bouncing and filled the freezer with enough fish for 3 of us. Not saying it was the right thing to do, but it did happen!!.

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fishreies

Sat, 2009-09-12 12:09

come on ,surely none of these fine upstanding gents would be involved in this sort of caper!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hmm  i have mixed emotions

Sat, 2009-09-12 12:45

Hmm  i have mixed emotions about this subject , but not enough relevant information is really given in order to comment , hopefully it is not true .

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The Truth

Sat, 2009-09-12 13:09

The Media as a whole will never let truth get in the way of a good story, Front page head-line, page 30 retraction or apology.

Let the story run its' course and eventually and hopefully the truth will come out.

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question to ask is "who

Sat, 2009-09-12 13:39

question to ask is "who polices the fisheries police???"

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Frames

Sat, 2009-09-12 13:45

Wonder if they donated the frames for fisheries research?- Probably didn't have enough room left in the freezer.

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Such indignation

Sat, 2009-09-12 17:50

from some of you - i can state categorically that if i was a Fisheries Officer on an extended trip i would not be eating steak for tea - got to be a few benefits - but if it's a bit of plundering will their boat be confiscated?

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No way

Sat, 2009-09-12 21:05

our fisheries boys would behave like crims after all they ping us for every millimetre that can be measured why then would they flog off a tonne of fish. Na page one media bullshit for sure, or are they shonky like the cops ?

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i cant believe so many

Sat, 2009-09-12 22:10

i cant believe so many people,  not only on this forum but others as well, can sit back and say "lets wait till the story evolves a bit more and and we will see the truth appear" ...... these are the same sort of people, if not the same people, that if there is a report  in the paper about rec or pro fisherman they believe what is typed without waiting for "the real story to evolve". im not saying everyone here is like this but it seems that most are.

the people involved in this story should be convicted and brought to justice in my opinio. fisheries have no problem prosecuting us pros and recs if we do something wrong but i bet my left testy they do stuff all to these people even if it's a  proven true story.

 

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there's a difference

Sun, 2009-09-13 07:57

I think it's one thing to express OPINIONS on what is (often mis) reported in the media and something completely different to find a person/department guilty before the appropriate investigation and (and) subsequent judicial process.

Also, don't forget, many of the coments on Rec fishing have been made from direct (and video broadcast) video statements from the minister. Until something solid comes out of DOF or appropriate other sources, I (and no doubt others) will remain concerned and interested. 

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you want proof

Sat, 2009-09-12 22:26

I have the photos straight from Walter Starck, the marine scientist- whistle blower

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PS have you seen research

Sat, 2009-09-12 22:38

PS have you seen research material packed into freezer bags, unlabelled in boxes on a pallet before

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look carefully i have not

Sun, 2009-09-13 06:34

look carefully i have not posted anything else....BUT context is what any photo boils down to mate. he may have a point from the pix, but those alone won't do the job...only a CCC investigation will !! watch this space

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why not post the photos

Sat, 2009-09-12 23:50

why not post the photos then??

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The photos were posted up on

Sun, 2009-09-13 05:56

The photos were posted up on the news last night.

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I went in and the West Australian web

Sun, 2009-09-13 09:00

site, its there for you all to read think the address is west.com.au

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fisheries

Sun, 2009-09-13 10:16

Would be nice to know how many prosecutions they achieve each year.for what it costs to run the fisheries dept.      just a taxpayer juncket ride .never found them to be knowledgable with the rules   . or effective i have known a few who,s story,s are similar                                  as another poster wrote who polices the fisheries police question ansewered themselves.ha ha 

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When we've been seen to

Sun, 2009-09-13 10:23

by the fisheries officers, I know one thing, they are quite arrogant even though we have been extremely co-operative with them, no regard for queries either, to me real smarta#@$e's.  Quite rough with your gear and fish.

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Such Language Roberta

Sun, 2009-09-13 16:52

But you,and some of the other posts are correct,about who do we trust to report fair,unbiased,concerning the actions  of public servants ,whether they are Police,Doctors,Fisheries,or Politicians,,We have seen articles printed,in the West paper that would be inflammatory,or defamatory,and in a great many cases,they are correct,Let me see,A state overpaid Sth West Politician with Abalone,No license,and too many?Another Polly who was investigated by the CCC. A person who did 12 years inside due to false evidence from some police officers,(make that two people wrongly convicted)Medical professionals,the pillars of society, rorting tax perks,and was it not in the last year or so that TWO dept of fisheries officers were accussed of some discrepancy involving the activities of some illegal nature..The more I see of people and learn about them the more I realise that some,think they are above the law,in other words,do"nt do as I do do as I say,I for one,wish to thank the editor of the West Australian,for bringing this matter to our notice,andIf wrong,I hope he mans up and says he is wrong,but if he is right or even if the way fisheries are conducting themselves,then there must be a thorough investigation,Who paid for the trucking  of the fish,what is it used for,and does it then come under the fringe benefit tax.I agree,those involved are innocent until proven other wise,but it all smells a bit fishy to me,or is it ,just on the nose,my view,but I have a very healthy scepticism for many people who hold public office

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Just another government department

Sun, 2009-09-13 21:55

What do the govt do with confiscated things ?... SELL THEM!....... They do it in all department's...... The people who enforce the law play with the law....

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I think the Government sells the catchs

Mon, 2009-09-14 08:51

of ruffie that they get from the illegal fishing boats out in our waters near the artic circle, could be wrong, but have seen the fish for sale at Canningvale Markets (fish mongers shop) to pay for expenses incurred chasing them.  One of the boats is still moored up from Austal Shipping, think from memory a white long liner boat.

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Can we get a comment from mr

Mon, 2009-09-14 11:32

Can we get a comment from mr gallash?

He might be able to clear things up

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It would be hard for anyone,

Mon, 2009-09-14 11:38

It would be hard for anyone, including Adam, to comment on something before its really been investigated.

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nothing from me

Mon, 2009-09-14 13:24

Nothing from me mate.  I know what we used to do with our research, know what compliance goes through and why I can't be bothered commenting.

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Maybe there's a opportunity

Mon, 2009-09-14 11:32

Maybe there's a opportunity to help reduce the overall catch by 50%. Ban fisheries from fishingCool

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LOL Rod!

Mon, 2009-09-14 13:11

Ouch! Laughing

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haha good one rod! Hard to

Mon, 2009-09-14 13:45

haha good one rod!

Hard to tell if true or not.

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And still no bite from Ad's.

Mon, 2009-09-14 13:52

And still no bite from Ad's. He wasn't involved was heSurprised

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Definately wasn't Fisheries

Tue, 2009-09-15 14:46

Definately wasn't Fisheries Officers involved, unfortunately the West Australian will not say that as it makes a better story the way they wrote it, esspecially in the current climate with the rec sector being asked to take reductions and pay licence fee's. 

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Todays West,,Fisheries

Tue, 2009-09-15 15:36

Todays West,,Fisheries Department chief executive has admitted his officers shared fish taken for research.

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Perhaps the West should have

Tue, 2009-09-15 15:57

Perhaps the West should have read "Employees of the Fisheries Department" to use the term "Fisheries Officers" is misleading given that none were involved. It's great how the Media can print what ever they like with no comeback.

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speculation

Tue, 2009-09-15 18:14

fishing for research?? filleting at sea. trip limit, possesion limit, now all of a sudden their all handing their fish in for research,  before we load both barrels  and take aim we are all going to have to wait as the fisheries may have been exposed in wrong doings and we will have to see how far the media and public enquirys take it until the real truth be told and somebody takes the blame if illegal actions have been carried out,i certainly dont want to see it brushed under the carpet.    we would all have to be very stupid to think the guys out patrolling our waters didnt catch a few good fish for themselves to bring home being the benifits of the job

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I can't see the Crime and

Wed, 2009-09-16 12:48

I can't see the Crime and Coruption Commission sweeping it under the carpet and agree that any one who has done the wrong thing should be held accountable. My concern is that a group of people Fisheries Offiers, myself being one, have faced "trial by media", who are armed with incorrect facts, or choose to ignore the facts to sell papers. 

Unfortunatley I am unbale to comment on the issue any further, other than that it does not invovle "Fisheries Officers" as the investigation is now in the hands of the CCC.  Once the CCC have completed their investigation the full report will be available on their website for all to see.

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I have edited the title to

Wed, 2009-09-16 15:28

I have edited the title to "research personell" in view of this new information.

Seems like the West has been leading the public down the garden path, we will have to see what the ACCC come up with, but it would stand to reason the researchers could be more involved having full access to the fish and final products (including fillets)

If they did not eat them i guess they would have been dumped, i don't like to see fish wasted either,,,,,,,,,,,,Frown its a pitty its so had legally to give it to the needy,,,,

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Media

Wed, 2009-09-16 15:41

As I stated in a previous post, the media as a whole will never let the truth get in the way of a good or bad story.

The people who have allegedly breach the rules, will be ducking for cover.They know the truth of the matter.Perhaps they will come forward, tell their story and hopefully the media will publish their side of what has transpired.

 

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